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April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column" 
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Post Re: April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column"
Jeff Wilder just jogged my memory, about a point I wanted to raise.

In a film like Last Tango in Paris, which is first and foremost about sex, there must be nudity. A hypothetical light version of the movie, in which there is no nudity and the sex is all obscured by clever photography, would be intellectually and artistically dishonest. It would be treating the viewers as though they were stupid or childish.

That's an extreme example. A recent, milder, real-world example would be the version of The King's Speech in which the king never swears, no matter how frustrated he becomes.


Sat Apr 16, 2011 6:38 pm
Post Re: April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column"
Robert Holloway wrote:
Ragnarok73 wrote:
For me, the main Hollywood actress (or next closest thing) that I find attractive in the nude is Alice Eve, because she's got amazing tits. Check out the film Crossing Over to see ample evidence of this.


I just Googled images of Alice Eve as i did know of her

She seems like any typical LA big boobed, white teeth, tanned, super smiling bimbo and 10 a penny at that
Did I miss something?

Rob

I never said she was some *great* actress, Rob, just one that I can think of in Hollywood. I would take Alice over Natalie, Mila, Scarlett, etc, any day of the week. ;)


Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:30 pm
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Ragnarok73 wrote:
Robert Holloway wrote:
Ragnarok73 wrote:
For me, the main Hollywood actress (or next closest thing) that I find attractive in the nude is Alice Eve, because she's got amazing tits. Check out the film Crossing Over to see ample evidence of this.


I just Googled images of Alice Eve as i did know of her

She seems like any typical LA big boobed, white teeth, tanned, super smiling bimbo and 10 a penny at that
Did I miss something?

Rob

I never said she was some *great* actress, Rob, just one that I can think of in Hollywood. I would take Alice over Natalie, Mila, Scarlett, etc, any day of the week. ;)



I know - I was not commenting on her acting :)
If i'm honest - I struggle to think of actresses today that are sexual objects of lust. Maybe I'm just too old :(
Rob


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Post Re: April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column"
Ragnarok73 wrote:
Quite frankly, I don't find many A-list actresses attractive enough for that purpose anyway.


Anne Hathaway's tits aren't half bad. But, yeah, if we're talking strictly current A-listers, she's about the only one who comes close. Michael Bay's an idiot, though, for declining Scarlett's offer to do a scene in "The Island" topless (and this was back when she was still at her curviest). That window may now be shut forever. :?


Sun Apr 17, 2011 8:38 am
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H.I. McDonough wrote:
Michael Bay's an idiot, though, for declining Scarlett's offer to do a scene in "The Island" topless (and this was back when she was still at her curviest). That window may now be shut forever. :?


I did like "The Island" and Bay was an idiot. I know they were stiving for the PG-13 to increase attendance (didn't help) but he should have at least taken her up on the offer for a subsequent "unrated director's cut" DVD. Since it would have been her only appearance to date, it would have helped sales. (Assuming that her "offer" to do that scene was genuine and not a made up story to generate buzz for the film.)


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Post Re: April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column"
BTW, in today's news:
3-D erotic comedy shakes up Hong Kong box office
http://www.salon.com/wires/entertainmen ... index.html

Not in the US and other Taliban countries, I guess.


Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:23 pm
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Freedom_Fryer wrote:
BTW, in today's news:
3-D erotic comedy shakes up Hong Kong box office
http://www.salon.com/wires/entertainmen ... index.html

Not in the US and other Taliban countries, I guess.

"...But does not show actual sexual intercourse, as is common in pornographic films."

Really, actual sexual intercourse is common in porn? Go figure.


Wed Apr 20, 2011 1:27 pm
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I agree the internet has changed things. Alyssa Milano used to go after sites that posted clips or pics of her naked. Im not what the difference is really now except that these things get distributed faster and easier.

The unfortunate thing is that movie nudity has become mostly male, while actresses can have sex scenes and play strippers without doing nudity(ex: Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Observe & Report : both containing sex scenes were the actresses are covered and feature multiple frontal male scenes)

Movie nudity today has pretty much become breasts and dicks, with most "graphic nudity" warnings meaning male frontals. The worst part is that it usually in films that are really aimed at men.

It sucks.


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Post Re: April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column"
TheMisanthrope wrote:
I agree the internet has changed things. Alyssa Milano used to go after sites that posted clips or pics of her naked. Im not what the difference is really now except that these things get distributed faster and easier.

The unfortunate thing is that movie nudity has become mostly male, while actresses can have sex scenes and play strippers without doing nudity(ex: Forgetting Sarah Marshall and Observe & Report : both containing sex scenes were the actresses are covered and feature multiple frontal male scenes)

Movie nudity today has pretty much become breasts and dicks, with most "graphic nudity" warnings meaning male frontals. The worst part is that it usually in films that are really aimed at men.

It sucks.


Of course, the rise of the unfortunate practice of most women now 'shaving down there' has seemingly created a lot of reluctance of actresses from showing the 'third B'; for most you can't make the argument that 'all people are seeing is a small patch of hair.' :? I still personally believe a woman should genuinely have hair on another place on her body besides her head (and - let's face it - it doesn't look nearly as good on their legs or in their armpits). :oops:


Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:27 am
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H.I. McDonough wrote:
Of course, the rise of the unfortunate practice of most women now 'shaving down there' has seemingly created a lot of reluctance of actresses from showing the 'third B'; for most you can't make the argument that 'all people are seeing is a small patch of hair.' :? I still personally believe a woman should genuinely have hair on another place on her body besides her head (and - let's face it - it doesn't look nearly as good on their legs or in their armpits). :oops:

It would be interesting to see some quantitative data on this. (I actually mean that literally. This time.) I understand that it is more common, but has it gotten to where it's most women yet? Based on anecdotal evidence and my own experience, I would guess that trimming/grooming is very popular, but outright shaving is more of a mixed bag.

Man, I love talking about movies.


Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:49 am
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Ken wrote:
H.I. McDonough wrote:
Of course, the rise of the unfortunate practice of most women now 'shaving down there' has seemingly created a lot of reluctance of actresses from showing the 'third B'; for most you can't make the argument that 'all people are seeing is a small patch of hair.' :? I still personally believe a woman should genuinely have hair on another place on her body besides her head (and - let's face it - it doesn't look nearly as good on their legs or in their armpits). :oops:

It would be interesting to see some quantitative data on this. (I actually mean that literally. This time.) I understand that it is more common, but has it gotten to where it's most women yet? Based on anecdotal evidence and my own experience, I would guess that trimming/grooming is very popular, but outright shaving is more of a mixed bag.

Man, I love talking about movies.


From imdb's trivia for The Bank Job (2008)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0200465/trivia?tr=tr0752203

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Roger Donaldson said one of the most difficult days of filming was when he filmed the brothel scene. The scene called for the women to be walking around wearing only garters. However, Donaldson said that when he went to film the scene he discovered that most of the women shaved their genitals, which would have been anachronistic for 1971. So the actresses had to wear pubic wigs called "merkins." This caused a problem because the merkins were hard to secure in place and kept slipping, causing Donaldson much aggravation.


Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:31 pm
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I think most actresses use merkins when they drop their drawls, whether they really need to or not. They don't want any chance of nature's unguarded majesty slipping out onscreen.


Sat Apr 30, 2011 4:28 pm
Post Re: April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column"
It also let them get away with doing frontal nudity, without doing frontal nudity. Its really like wearing a strapless bikini bottom.

It seems like women arent being asked into doing nudity, even when the role should require it (its not PC to "exploit" women nowadays), while men have been asked show it all(and by some indications fromthe past 2 years, I think we're getting close to the point where I think we'll start seeing erections in films - actually there have been a few example already in R rated films). Lindsey Lohan offered to go FF and was turned down flat as it "wasnt necessary" :? Society hates men anyway, so I guess I shouldnt be suprised. It does annoy me that men as asked to go further and further and womens genitals are somehow off limits. Who wouldnt have liked to see the rumored scene in Closer where Natalie Portman opens her legs in front of Clive Owen (and the viewer - supposedly filmed and cut - a decision made by both Portman and Nichols)

Having said that, there has been some nice suprises in recent times from cable and the occasional theaterical release - Kirsten Dunst actually showing FF in Lars Von Tiers new film, some of the cable nudity James mentioned - Sparactus is always good for viewing some nice looking women despite having to sit through acres of schlongs to get to it, True Blood and it looks like Game of Thrones on HBO - Ricci, in After Life, Kelly Brook in Piranha and so on.

Still, Im tired of having to sit through endless male frontals and I know this isnt PC to say, I REALLY have nothing against them, but homosexuality. What people do in their bedrooms is their own business,and I think you should do what makes you happy but really its EVERYWHERE, but Im a bit tired of being bombarded with it in my entertainment. Movies and premium programming are my escape from reality,and Im just tired of seeing it constantly.


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Sat Apr 30, 2011 7:27 pm
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Wait, Lindsay Lohan offered to do a nude scene?! :shock: I never heard about that, what film was that for? Georgia Rule?


Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:42 pm
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Actually she offered twice.

This was the first time which was in 2008 for the film Florence...
"Producers only wanted 21-year-old Lindsay to go topless during red-hot sex scenes and were stunned when she told them she would be happy to do a full frontal. And despite usually commanding seven-figures, Lindsay has agreed to strip off for [a mere $40,000]."

I do remember reading later it was decided she wouldnt have to go FF and they turned her offer down.

She was also supposed to go FF in the Linda Lovelace bio, which shes no longer doing.
"In six months, when actress Lindsay Lohan has completed her 90-day jail and 90-day rehab sentence, she will prepare to do full frontal nudity for her role as porn star Linda Lovelace in the biopic “Inferno.” And according to a report from RadarOnline.com, the nudity will not be done in an artistic, cinematic manner, but instead will be more “violent.” “There will be full frontal nudity,” director Matthew Wilder told Radar.


That role is now with Malin Akerman and I have no idea if she'll go FF for the film. Topless is confirmed though.


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Post Re: April 14, 2011: "The 2011 Nudity Column"
I think Elaine Benes put it best in a Seinfeld episode: "The female body is a work of art; the male body is a strictly utilitarian item -- it's hideous!" :)


Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:20 pm
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TheMisanthrope wrote:
Still, Im tired of having to sit through endless male frontals and I know this isnt PC to say, I REALLY have nothing against them, but homosexuality. What people do in their bedrooms is their own business,and I think you should do what makes you happy but really its EVERYWHERE, but Im a bit tired of being bombarded with it in my entertainment. Movies and premium programming are my escape from reality,and Im just tired of seeing it constantly.

Perhaps we're living in different universes, but it seems to me that it's extremely rare to see a homosexual character in screen fiction, except when said character is either played for comedy or used strictly as the Sage (and Chaste) Minority Character.

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I think Elaine Benes put it best in a Seinfeld episode: "The female body is a work of art; the male body is a strictly utilitarian item -- it's hideous!" :)
"It's like a Jeep!"


Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:17 pm
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Is Michael Bay an idiot for not wanting to exclude his target audience from seeing his movies? Nahh.


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Is Michael Bay an idiot for not wanting to exclude his target audience from seeing his movies? Nahh.


No, but he IS an idiot for (possibly) denying the world a view of Scarlett's bare rack in her physical prime. :P

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Roger Donaldson said one of the most difficult days of filming was when he filmed the brothel scene. The scene called for the women to be walking around wearing only garters. However, Donaldson said that when he went to film the scene he discovered that most of the women shaved their genitals, which would have been anachronistic for 1971. So the actresses had to wear pubic wigs called "merkins." This caused a problem because the merkins were hard to secure in place and kept slipping, causing Donaldson much aggravation.


Kate WInslet has said she also wore one in "The Reader." One has to wonder how/why this (the shaving/extreme grooming, that is) suddenly became commonplace after years of very few women caring. It can't be purely to wear skimpier bikini bottoms, can it? :?: Sometimes I can't help but miss nice ol' rugs like Jenny Agutter's in "Equus." :oops:


Sun May 01, 2011 6:02 pm
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H.I. McDonough wrote:
Dragonbeard wrote:
Is Michael Bay an idiot for not wanting to exclude his target audience from seeing his movies? Nahh.


No, but he IS an idiot for (possibly) denying the world a view of Scarlett's bare rack in her physical prime. :P


True... I'd hate to be the person who prevents the irrational male reaction to mammary glands ;)


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