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majoraphasia wrote:
ram1312 wrote:

Good definiton.

Can't say I ever really had a definiton, more of an impression that exploitation films had to be...I don't know...B-grade. You know...not-so-great acting, over-the-top gore/sex, big fury jackets with cane accessory, girls with guns, and on and on.

More of an impression...I'm certain I'm wrong now.



Ah, but you see ram, I think only the best exploitation movies have the "not-so-great acting, over-the-top gore/sex, big fury jackets with cane accessory, girls with guns, and on and on."

The definition is very flexible, naturally. I'm going to divvy up my viewings with representatives from the "big" categories: pseudo-snuff, blaxploitation, purported documentaries... you get the idea. Many of the suggestions people wrote in inform me that most viewers, at least those who frequent this site, haven't seen many of the movies I'd heard about. They'd probably heard about some of the more infamous titles but, like me, avoided them for greener pastures.


Oh, Blaxploitation films count, too? I trust that you've seen Superfly and Shaft, but these three a worthy entries in the genre as well:

Coffy
An absolute must. Watch buxom Pam Grier as Coffy - nurse by day, vigilante by night - blow off a pusher's head with a shotgun and get involved in a food fight in a brothel. Soundtrack by Roy Ayers.

Foxy Brown
Again, Pam Grier infiltrates a 'modeling agency' run by (very campy) drug dealers. Cue genitals in a jar and a gun hidden in an Afro. Soundtrack by Willie Hutch.

Black Caesar
Rags-to-Riches gangster movie: Little Caeser in Harlem. Former shoeshine boy rises throgh the ranks of the Mafia until he becomes the kingpin of Harlem. Superbly funky soundtrack by James Brown.


Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:01 am
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Unke wrote:

Oh, Blaxploitation films count, too? I trust that you've seen Superfly and Shaft, but these three a worthy entries in the genre as well:

Coffy
An absolute must. Watch buxom Pam Grier as Coffy - nurse by day, vigilante by night - blow off a pusher's head with a shotgun and get involved in a food fight in a brothel. Soundtrack by Roy Ayers.

Foxy Brown
Again, Pam Grier infiltrates a 'modeling agency' run by (very campy) drug dealers. Cue genitals in a jar and a gun hidden in an Afro. Soundtrack by Willie Hutch.

Black Caesar
Rags-to-Riches gangster movie: Little Caeser in Harlem. Former shoeshine boy rises throgh the ranks of the Mafia until he becomes the kingpin of Harlem. Superbly funky soundtrack by James Brown.



Well, Mr. Unke, I know a triple feature when I see one. You captured my interest with "food fight in a brothel", made me pay strict attention with "gun hidden in an afro", and sold me with "superbly funky". We both know that "superbly funky" is what a triple feature is all about and so, with a slight cheat, I'm throwing all three on the list for a solid night of funktified genital-jarring, shoeshine mafia nurse-by-day vigilante-by-night blaxsploitation razzamatazz.

And while I haven't seen Superfly I believe that a powerhouse of action classic such as that gem can wait until I've been through the rest of the ringer.


Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:48 am
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majoraphasia wrote:
Now, in theory, I should watch the "original". In a thread dedicated to bloody violence and tasteless behavior would you watch the "original" exploitation film or the bloodier remake of that movie? It's more in the spirit of the thread to watch the Bloodsucking movie. Yes.


How do you feel about sequels? Doing my original search I came up with this:

Nekromantik (1987)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093608/
A street sweeper who cleans up after grisly accidents brings home a full corpse for him and his wife to enjoy sexually, but is dismayed to see that his wife prefers the corpse over him.

Sounds like gold, right? Unfortunately, it does not seem to be available on Netflix. They have Nekromantik2, though.


Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:36 pm
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majoraphasia wrote:
Out of the three you've mentioned I'm going to be adding Bloodsucking Freaks. But why, me? Well, I'll tell ya: It's a remake of a movie called The Wizard of Gore. Now, in theory, I should watch the "original". In a thread dedicated to bloody violence and tasteless behavior would you watch the "original" exploitation film or the bloodier remake of that movie? It's more in the spirit of the thread to watch the Bloodsucking movie. Yes.


I had no idea that Bloodsucking Freaks was a remake of The Wizard of Gore, which I had heard of in Juno and subsequently forgotten about in my general "It's not that great guys..." reaction to that film. Learn something new every day.

Speaking of which, how about something from ol' H.G. Lewis? After all, shouldn't the man who started it all with Blood Feast (which I assume you've seen, being that it's in the opening post of this thread) at least get a single spot on the Exploitative 12?

EDIT: So I did a little follow up research on H.G. to see what I could scrounge up, and based on what I read you'd probably be best off seeing either Two Thousand Maniacs! from '64 or The Gore Gore Girls from '72, although he made over 20 films between '63 through '72 most of which could count for your project. Make what you will of that.


Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:52 pm
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Street Trash (1987) is a wild flick.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094057/


Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:03 pm
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Bondurant wrote:
Street Trash (1987) is a wild flick.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094057/


Ah! I'd love to see that movie! A few years back I watched a couple of Dante Tomaselli's movies (they were all bad) and found that some other people who disliked that guy loved Street Trash. That kind of kinship must mean something, right?


Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:13 pm
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*anxiously awaiting the next review*


Tue Feb 16, 2010 2:17 pm
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ram1312 wrote:
*anxiously awaiting the next review*


Well put away your Xanax cuz I've watched the cannibal movie (and one other) and the review is to be up tonight.

Hint: HOLY MOTHER OF FUCK! WHY?! WHY?! WHY?!


Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:53 pm
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majoraphasia wrote:
ram1312 wrote:
*anxiously awaiting the next review*


Well put away your Xanax cuz I've watched the cannibal movie (and one other) and the review is to be up tonight.

Hint: HOLY MOTHER OF FUCK! WHY?! WHY?! WHY?!
Well that film certainly wasn't banned in 31 countries for nothing! :twisted:


Tue Feb 16, 2010 5:29 pm
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#2: Cannibal Ferox

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What's it about?

Small-time thug/drug addict Mike Logan heads of to Paraguay in order to outrun some people who'd like him dead. He meets up with some anthropologist types and, before you know it, most of them have been eaten by cannibals. Oh, and tortured by cannibals. Eaten and tortured by cannibals. Not always in that order.

And what are we exploiting in this entry?

Lessee... women, cultural relativism, animals, xenophobia, more animals, and some more animals.

Summary of movie in a a short sentence:

When life hands you lemons, make lemonade. If that lemonade is then frozen and used to violently sodomize you, write a book about it.

Is it any good?

Words like 'good', 'bad', 'competent' and 'entertaining' don't really apply to this movie. It exists in space and time like that monolith in 2001: A Space Odyssey.

The meat:


Back in the late 70s, early 1980s there were a number of so-called 'cannibal exploitation films' released. If you go by the 'public fears in the cinema' angle of things, a fear of cannibalism in the early 80s was practically the same as current fears over the swine flu. In the 90s it was a massive ebola outbreak. Cannibal Ferox (or, Make Them Die Slowly!) makes the claim that it's "the most violent movie ever made" and it doesn't take very long to put any skepticism on hold in favor of picking up an object, any object, to vomit into.

That is to say: if you've always wanted to see a woman hung by her breasts via large hooks you need look no further. And if I had known that so many staged animal executions were going to be gracing my eyes I probably would have opted for a Cheers rerun and a Unisom.

Yeah, about those animal executions: lots of animals met their maker in the production of Cannibal Ferox. There doesn't seem to be a stretch of five minutes where some form of wildlife isn't sliced and diced in front of the camera in order to better sell the reality of the film.

And, yeah, about those animal executions: Michael Haneke, in 2003's The Time of the Wolf, had a horse shot and stabbed in the neck in order to better sell the reality of his film. I thought the film was incredible but had a hard time figuring out why that horse needed to bite the big one in order to wrap filming. But I've gotten away from cannibals, haven't I?

I watched Cannibal Ferox with mounting dread that the next image would be so disgusting that I'd be searching for a therapist the next day. There's disembowlings, eyes being gouged left and right, intestines eaten, brains torn from skulls and eaten, people hung from hooks, fingers lopped off, blood spraying every which way... it all became so dreadful that it finally crossed over into the hilarious. Take away the abject animal cruelty and you've got a movie that would be perfect for a group of brave, strong-stomached soldiers. The violence is so gratuitous, in fact, that you need the abject animal cruelty in order to lend some ill-gotten reality to the proceedings. Whatever the Amazon is like it isn't like this.

What's more, the violence is so over-the-top (at least 30 drums of red-dyed corn syrup were harmed in the making of this film) that the brutal rapes and frequent slanders against women (if you played a drinking game around bare, blood-soaked breasts and various usages of the words slut, whore, and c*nt there would be several corpses due to acute alcohol poisoning within about 10 minutes) almost felt like a calm break to the proceedings.

People, I don't know what to make of this one. It wasn't entertaining or enlightening. It wasn't any fun. It was badly acted, badly filmed and pointless beyond all measure. That it ends with a woman escaping the carnage to write a book about it, using her scars to condem... what? Cannibalism? This movie condems cannibalism? I can't say that I was bored. I can say that I wish I hadn't stayed through the opening credits.

But there's some silver lining here: when the movie was finally over I felt a sense of elation so profound that only orgasm could match it. Done! I'll never have to watch another cannibal movie again!

And there's even more silver lining: if you've seen this movie than you know, immediately, you've seen humanity (both fake cannibals and immoral filmmakers alike) at a special kind of low point. Everything else will be blueberry muffins and fluffy puppies.

So the verdict is simple: I condemn the movie for needless animal barbarism and sort of realize, at the same time, that this one is probably a pretty good example of exploitation cinema. Cannibal exploitation cinema, at any rate. I'd feel awful recommending the movie but... no, that's really it. I'd feel awful recommending the movie.

If you're at all curious as to why the plot and characters weren't broken down better I tell you that there isn't any point in telling you more than I already have. It's torture and cannibalism, animals meeting their doom. That Mike Logan sports a cocaine necklace (really) and manages to get a quick screw in only delay the inevitable descent into depravity.

In closing: The Girl Next Door was terrible but, comparitively speaking, it was a masterpiece. Cannibal Ferox, badly dubbed and generally immoral.

Next!


Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:21 am
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majoraphasia wrote:
I watched Cannibal Ferox with mounting dread that the next image would be so disgusting that I'd be searching for a therapist the next day.


A cousin of mine had Cannibal Holocaust, but for the life of me I couldn't bring myself to watch the thing for the same therapist reason. That's a bit of hyperbole, but I get the feeling that once you've watched you can never scrub those images off your mind. People: are things really this bad or do you think I could jump in? I mean, Mr. Aphasia's reviews pretty much give you the gist of the bloody thing. All that's missing is the images, right?


Wed Feb 17, 2010 2:46 pm
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ed_metal_head wrote:
majoraphasia wrote:
I watched Cannibal Ferox with mounting dread that the next image would be so disgusting that I'd be searching for a therapist the next day.


A cousin of mine had Cannibal Holocaust, but for the life of me I couldn't bring myself to watch the thing for the same therapist reason. That's a bit of hyperbole, but I get the feeling that once you've watched you can never scrub those images off your mind. People: are things really this bad or do you think I could jump in? I mean, Mr. Aphasia's reviews pretty much give you the gist of the bloody thing. All that's missing is the images, right?



Welcome aboard. Supply all the imagery you need. Watch what I watch! Meet those I meet! Eat my enemies by my side!


Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:44 am
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Wow...just wow. Can't believe you're going through with this major. Thanks.?

I was thinking about other possible titles, and I remember reading a zero star review of Mr. B's...

98 minutes later, I felt like I had been dragged through a vat of raw sewage laced with Sominex.

Porn has more value.

Then there are the images that Moodysson splices in to allow the movie to "push the envelope." These include documentary footage of a vaginal reconstruction and a lovely scene in which one character vomits into the mouth of another.


The movie is A Hole in My Heart. http://www.reelviews.net/movies/h/hole_heart.html

Exploitation? I'm not sure...

You?


Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:48 pm
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ram1312 wrote:
Wow...just wow. Can't believe you're going through with this major. Thanks.?


It isn't as if I'm doing anything altruistic here. It's kind of like this: when I first saw Magnolia I thought it was the bomb in phantoms (yaoh) and it was about 10 years I realized, after reading/seeing more restrained art, it was more than a little ridiculous. It was still good but it was no longer the bomb in phantoms (yaoh). I've seen a lot of movies in the past year, a lot of them very good to excellent. I'd like to see something legendary for reasons other than influence and pesky "quality".

ram1312 wrote:
I was thinking about other possible titles, and I remember reading a zero star review of Mr. B's...

98 minutes later, I felt like I had been dragged through a vat of raw sewage laced with Sominex.

Porn has more value.

Then there are the images that Moodysson splices in to allow the movie to "push the envelope." These include documentary footage of a vaginal reconstruction and a lovely scene in which one character vomits into the mouth of another.


The movie is A Hole in My Heart. http://www.reelviews.net/movies/h/hole_heart.html

Exploitation? I'm not sure...

You?


It sounds like exploitation (though so many things could qualify) but it also sounds a little bit too 'artistic' to qualify as grindhouse-worthy. I'd like to keep it to the drive-in for the sake of maybe squeezing a little bit of entertainment value out of the experience. Clearly I've been failing at this goal.


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Anchor Bay Films has picked up rights in the U.S., Canada, Australia, the U.K. and New Zealand to CineTel Films' remake of the 1978 cult film "I Spit On Your Grave."

Directed by Steven R. Monroe, the new version of "Spit" tells the story of a city girl, played by Sarah Butler, who rents an isolated cabin in the country to write a novel. The victim of an assault and rape, she seeks vengeance on her attackers.

The cast includes Daniel Franzese, Chad Lindberg, Rodney Eastman and Andrew Howard.

"Spit" was produced by CineTel's Paul Hertzberg and Lisa Hansen in association with Anchor Bay.

It will receive a targeted theatrical release in the fall, followed by a DVD release in the first quarter of 2011.


Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:49 pm
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calvero wrote:
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Anchor Bay Films has picked up rights in the U.S., Canada, Australia, the U.K. and New Zealand to CineTel Films' remake of the 1978 cult film "I Spit On Your Grave."

Directed by Steven R. Monroe, the new version of "Spit" tells the story of a city girl, played by Sarah Butler, who rents an isolated cabin in the country to write a novel. The victim of an assault and rape, she seeks vengeance on her attackers.

The cast includes Daniel Franzese, Chad Lindberg, Rodney Eastman and Andrew Howard.

"Spit" was produced by CineTel's Paul Hertzberg and Lisa Hansen in association with Anchor Bay.

It will receive a targeted theatrical release in the fall, followed by a DVD release in the first quarter of 2011.


Finally! It's about time we get Steven R. Monroe's follow-up to his classic efforts Ice Twisters and Wyvern. Remember that scene in Ice Twisters with all the ice twisters? Oh! And how about that scene in Wyvern when all that stuff happened?! That was great! I thought to myself: "Screenwriter Jason Bourque has made velvet of the English language!"


Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:55 am
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#3: Street Trash

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What's it about?

Tenafly Viper, a bootleg alcohol found in a mysterious crate, causes anyone who drinks it to melt. Homeless people then drink Tenafly Viper and melt.

And what are we exploiting in this entry?

Nobody, really. It's funny and mostly silly -- this is no exploitation film. Well... alcoholics, maybe. Maybe alcoholics are exploited. And homeless people. And homeless alcoholics.

Summary of movie in a short sentence:

Alcholism is no laughing matter but $1.00 for toxic moonshine is still a pretty good bargain.

Is it any good?

Yes. This is the funniest Troma movie made without any participation from Troma. It cost (and I'm estimating here) about $10.00 to produce and you can see every penny at work from the acting to the special effects.

The meat:

Sleazy fare is just about the easiest thing to find if you're looking at the VHS cast-offs at the local Piggly Wiggly. Granted, the Piggly Wiggly should be the slummiest one you can find. Movies like Street Trash are labors of love made by people who honestly believe a can of stewed tomatoes would make a brilliant special effect prop. That kind of movie-making enthusiasm is a lot of fun and Street Trash, a story about homeless men living in a junkyard who stumble upon a 'conspiracy' of sorts involving a toxic liquor, is brimming with enthusiasm. So, as A=B in this paragraph, the movie is a lot of fun.

The plot should be breezed through for maximum effect: two brothers, both homeless, live in an auto yard with the charity of a plucky woman. One brother (Fred) is a thief and the other is a sponge on the plucky woman. There's a gang of homeless people living in the same yard, a cop trying to break up the gang, and a liquor salesman who has a short ton of bargain bin liquor that kills anyone who drinks it within seconds.

The first melting of the morning is often the hardest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qP3Tx19w7c

It'd be nice to say the movie is commenting on homelessness in America but I'd be kidding myself if I believed, for more than a second, this movie was anything more than an opportunity to watch a bunch of people melt after imbibing. A comment on alcoholism then? No.

There are few moments that are passed off as pathos (a man explains why he's about to drink himself to sleep) but this movie is really just a collection of dirty jokes, bottom-tier special effects, and a game of catch involving a man's severed penis. Yes.

It just didn't fit the exploitation bill. It's offensive in a gentle, stupid way but doesn't go there. It's still amusing. Not that anyone cares. That includes me.


Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:54 am
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Damn...I feel that Bondurant failed you by Street Trash not being exploitaty enough.


Fri Mar 12, 2010 4:17 pm
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Wikipedia has a damn good entry on exploitation films.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploitation_film

Recommended reading:

Sleazoid Express: A Mind-Twisting Tour Through the Grindhouse Cinema of Times Square by Bill Landis and Michelle Clifford

This book is badass.


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Fri Mar 12, 2010 10:22 pm
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ram1312 wrote:
Damn...I feel that Bondurant failed you by Street Trash not being exploitaty enough.


Than I feel good letting both Bondurant and yourself know that, out of the movies I've watched for this thread, Street Trash was the best. It may not have been a letter-perfect example of exploitation but it was a lot of fun -- that's just a better use of time than misery/cannibalism.


Fri Mar 12, 2010 11:15 pm
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