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Incredible first episode of an 8 part mini-series on HBO staring Woody Harrelson and Matthew McConaughey. WH and MM are detectives in Louisiana investigating a heinous killing. It's told in two time frames, 1995 (when the killing took place), and 2012, when they are being interviewed in present day. Just incredible writing and acting, and it looks to be very dark with a gothic vibe to it.

This will be one of the GOAT mini series.


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Meh. I was not impressed. To be honest, I found it to be rather dull. I just don't see what everyone else seems to see with this show. It's your typical cop show. Nothing special about it IMO.


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I got around to the first episode last night and really dug it. The two time frames give the show a mystery to explore in each era - what exactly happened to McConaughey's character in the present, and the actual case they're working on in the past. The structure is pretty neat. Sure, the contrast between the mismatched partners seems to be nothing more than a common trope, but I'm not sure much else is "typical". And they're definitely playing up the religious angle, and seemingly plan on asking some of The Big Questions. I thought it was a very good first episode and am looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.

And:
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You guys got the impression that the cops interviewing WH and MM in the present suspected they had something to do with either the past murder, whatever it is they're currently investigating, or both, right? I specifically thought they suspected MM's character of something, although they don't explicitly say so. I think the most direct reference is when one of the interviewers says something like, "so you were just off the grid for the last 8 years," with the implication being he was around for 3 months as a detective and this kind of gruesome murder takes place, then he's gone for 8 years, pops back up, and another gruesome murder takes place. The other cop interrupts him so he doesn't completely give away their suspicions, but I think that was there for the audience to grab on to.


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Damn, this show makes me wish I had HBO. I've got a distinct Memories Of Murder vibe from all the promotional materials.

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Just saw episode 2.

Based on the way they are releasing bits of information at a time, and their clearly superior ability to tease with bait and switch and red herrings, one thing has become clear. The one thing I know for sure is that I don't know anything for sure.

Outstanding show so far...


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Such a brilliantly acted show. And Alexandra Daddario's TITS...OMFG!!!!!

One thing that I didn't get, or that I noticed but not sure if it is significant:

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After Marty argues with his wife and goes and gets his two girls for supper, he notices they have been playing with dolls, and the dolls were set up with a bunch of men dolls surrounding a girl doll face down on the floor with no pants on. It's like the girls were setting up a gang bang, or rape scene. I can't help but think that means something.


With this show, it seems like every single scene has some significance to the plot.


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Really loved that title sequence.


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roastbeef_ajus wrote:
One thing that I didn't get, or that I noticed but not sure if it is significant:

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After Marty argues with his wife and goes and gets his two girls for supper, he notices they have been playing with dolls, and the dolls were set up with a bunch of men dolls surrounding a girl doll face down on the floor with no pants on. It's like the girls were setting up a gang bang, or rape scene. I can't help but think that means something.


With this show, it seems like every single scene has some significance to the plot.


I'm not sure what it means either, but I can almost guarantee it has some significance.
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We see Woody pause for a second, then we see him look at the floor, and then we're shown the scene his daughters have created. I thought it might be them reenacting the murder their father is working on. McConaughey's character has a line in the episode about how bringing a child into a shitty world if an act of hubris, with the implication being you're full of shit if you think you can keep them innocent. I thought the scene the girls created sort of spoke to that point if it was their take on the murder. However, we're only shown the clip for a second or two, so it's really tough to tell exactly what they were doing.


I thought the second episode did a fantastic job of contrasting the two detectives. Harrelson is your quintessential working cop detective, complete with all the cliches normally associated with that kind of person in works of fiction. McCounaghey obviously has the same job, but he's much more a detective in the existential way, someone who's looking for answers to The Big Questions. I think that's what the "true" in the title is referencing.

The show's really getting into "fathers" (yes, it's almost certainly an allegory for father in the deity sense), and I can't wait to see where they take it.

Really, really good so far.


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So that's what some people mean when they said on twitter they have found a new Halloween costume.

The design is simple enough, but the way the image comes at the end of McConaughey's speech, coupled with that music and the freeze frame, makes it so bone-chilling.

Everything's starting to cohere come together now. The writing is amazing more than usual in this episode, especially all the speeches, and every performance is up for it. Great show; too bad it takes a week off next Sunday.


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I don't have much to add other than I agree with all that. I wish they weren't taking a week off, but Sunday is the Super Bowl here and, like, the entire country watches that. It makes sense, even if I selfishly wish they'd air episode 4 so I could record it and watch Monday.

Looks like some shit is gonna hit the fan next week too. Can't wait.

And seriously, why is McCounaghey the most interesting actor in the world now? I know it's nothing new at this point, but it still blows my mind. How in the fuck did that happen!?!?


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Jesus Christ. It almost seems impossible how each episode is so fucking incredible and better and the previous one. That was the best hour of television that I've seen in a long, long, long time. Also, the last 10 minutes were more intense than any movie I've seen lately...the single tracking shot to cover everything was incredible.

I feel sorry for anything going up against this series in the emmy's next year.


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roastbeef_ajus wrote:
Also, the last 10 minutes were more intense than any movie I've seen lately...the single tracking shot to cover everything was incredible.


Agreed. It was so intense it became difficult to watch. I want to be able to watch the last 4 episodes this instant, but I also don't want this to end. What an incredible show.


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Matthew McConaughey might just get an Oscar and an Emmy within a year span. What a magnificent streak the man gets for a few years now.

Tension just through the roof with that tracking shot. Incredible.


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Welp, I've watched all five episodes of this over the past 24 hours and I'll just be god damned if it isn't some of the best TV I've ever seen. Every aspect is of such high quality. I didn't expect to care about the characters (especially Rust) so much that the mystery would feel almost secondary. Where is this ride taking us?


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I don't think Woody's character is involved (but he very well could be), but it isn't coincidence that his daughter turned out like she did. She was making gang bang rape scenes with her dolls, and she grew up to be a slut. A strong theory is her grandpa is involved with the yellow king and cult of powerful people.

Another theory is that Rust has been undercover this whole time, trying to finish this case. We already know there is nothing Rust won't do if he believes that it is just.

Some key things I've read/rewatched:

1. Rust drinking when talking to the two cops is very significant. It makes sure any testimony he gives on camera is unreliable/will be thrown out in court.

2. The girl they find in the beginning, has a crown on of 10 antlers from a buck. In this past episode...Rust asks Marty, "have you ever been hunting?" Marty says "yes, a 10 point buck about a year and half ago."

3. Marty refuses to go back to the car to call for backup.

In the first episode, Rust asks about the former sherif, and is told his name is Ted Childress (who now lives in Gulf Shores?). The two police officers in the jail who escorted the prisoner who killed himself were named "childress and mahoney."


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Just when I thought telvevison couldn't get any better.

Seriously, how good is this fucking show? I watched the first episode tonight and just finished the fifth, I'm staggered with the intensity it keeps up from about half way through the second episode when things start to become a little clearer as to what's happening. The first episode is hard to get a grasp on the timeline's etc. Talk about taking the unreliable narrator(s) to the next level.

A couple of thoughts which maybe completely wrong?

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Surely MM and WH are both involved in the murder to some extent? MM detests religion and authority and with what happened to WH daughter in episode 5, he looks like he's at the breaking point. I think they'll do something pretty sick to get back at the suits who were brought in and seem to be involved. I'm guessing the suits have some sort of money relationship with the bikie gang in episode four. I thought Shea Whigham's character (the preacher) will come back into play at some point but am no longer sure. What an incredible performance by Matthew McConaughey. He's just so hard to get a read on it makes you change your mind every episode.

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roastbeef_ajus wrote:

Another theory is that Rust has been undercover this whole time, trying to finish this case. We already know there is nothing Rust won't do if he believes that it is just.



i've watched each episode twice now and I'm convinced the statement above is correct. He's still playing the system to find the real answer to the puzzle.

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wisey wrote:
roastbeef_ajus wrote:

Another theory is that Rust has been undercover this whole time, trying to finish this case. We already know there is nothing Rust won't do if he believes that it is just.



i've watched each episode twice now and I'm convinced the statement above is correct. He's still playing the system to find the real answer to the puzzle.


Yeah, I think that's a rock solid assumption. Of course, this show seems very interested in subverting traditional expectations, so maybe they're leading us to believe that only to pull the rug out from under us. I don't actually think that's what they're doing, but I really have no idea where this is all going with only 3 episodes left, and I do think pretty much anything it is on the table.

Can't wait for tonight. I've been telling everyone I can to watch this show. Here in America it's turning into a small cultural event, which I couldn't be happier about. So, so good.


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I was a tad let down by episode 6. After episodes four and five I thought the sky was the limit, but it wasn't anywhere near that level from my seat. The two highlights were probably the sex scene and the fight scene which says something in itself. It did end on a very interesting note though and I can't wait for episode 7.

I've watched that tracking scene at the end of episode 4 a few times now and don't think it could possibly be done in one shot. People wiser than me have probably got a firmer grasp on this regarding camera's etc, but it just doesn't seem possible to have a scene run for that amount of time with so much going on to be done in one take? I'd still rate it as the best television sequence I've ever viewed.

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Settling down episode, but it was still engrossing as hell because of the two detectives' evolving dynamics.

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