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I personally enjoyed Pluto Nash, though it's really more of a sci-fi adventure film then a comedy like the trailers made it out to be, though it did have some funny parts. Pearl Harbor was kinda eh, i'd sooner watch it then say Titanic, but that's not really much of a compliment. Blind Side I found more tolerable then some best picture winners(Driving Miss Daisy was a lot worse IMO) but I can see people's dislike for it.

I don't think Perry hates women or anything like that, but Temptation was definitely too depressing for my tastes.

I agree with you on the rest though, Hide And Seek is by far De Niro's worst performance of all time, he sleepwalks through the entire film making it obvious he's only doing it for the paycheck, lots of people complain about Pacino's 88 Minute, but that film was a masterpiece compared to Hide And Seek.

Extremely Loud is the worst kind of oscar bait, it's horribly insensitive in the way it handles it's subject matter.

Good Son was bad but I didn't truly hate it, Culkin was quite effective even if the film itself was badly written. Larry Crowne was mediocre, I didn't mind it being upbeat, but the poor performances rendered that kind of moot.


One film I truly hate that I think has gotten an undeserved amount of praise is "We Need To Talk About Kevin" the subject matter is handled in an incredibly insensitive manner and comes across as an insult to victims and their families of real life massacres, plus the acting is atrocious, especially the guy who plays Kevin, who's not remotely convincing as a psychopath.


I also despised God Bless America, it has the most horrifically unlikeable lead characters in recent memory, I don't see how some asshole killing a girl just for being spoiled, shooting move theater patrons(even before Aurora happened it still wasn't funny) for annoying him or him and some annoyingly bitchy girl(who dosen't even have a freudian excuse for her actions as it turns out she's been lying and it turns out the main guy dosen't have cancer after all, you'd think they both would've felt some sort of guilt but nope) shooting everyone at a singing competition is supposed to be the least bit funny or entertaining. Goldwaithe really missed the mark by a wide margin with that film, it's just 90 minute of him bitching and whining about how much this generation sucks(I could say plenty about how his generation was no better) and it just makes him sound like a whiny asshole, i'd much rather watch Hot To Trot then have to enture this crappy film again.


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I can't believe I forgot to mention just about any film made by Baz Luhrmann, but particularly Moulin Rouge. I'd love to tie that asshole down and then proceed to insert hypodermic needles filled with Thorazine into his eyeballs. If anyone passing by asked me, "How do you think that's going to help him?", I'd reply, "Who said I was trying to help him?". His films were made to be enjoyed by ADD-afflicted retards who are tripping on acid.

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One film I truly hate that I think has gotten an undeserved amount of praise is "We Need To Talk About Kevin" the subject matter is handled in an incredibly insensitive manner and comes across as an insult to victims and their families of real life massacres, plus the acting is atrocious, especially the guy who plays Kevin, who is not remotely convincing as a psychopath.


The praise it got is typical of a certain trend right now where dull, drab, poorly shot, poorly acted, lifeless, boring movies are getting praised by the same crowd over and over. The main thing these movies lack is a sense of illusion-making; a stylistic perspective. As Martin Scorsese says in his documentary (which I doubt any of those directors have seen), the director is supposed to be illusionist as much as storyteller. These crapfests include Argo, Mud, Compliance, The Conjuring, We Need to Talk About Kevin, and Super 8 to name a few.

And in the case of Compliance and Kevin, you know, if viewers want to see that, snuff videos and porn exploitation videos are pretty easy to find if you're looking to find them. You want to see what a psychopath really is? Check out the interview with Jeffrey Dahmer on youtube and then try to tell me that Kevin is a believable depiction of that. Try to tell me that Matthew McConaghey is a believable sociopath after seeing documented footage of what they're actually like. I agree with Vexer. What these movies do is insensitive and insulting, not just to victims of real tragedies but to any average viewer.


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I agree with the gist of the broader point. Although I haven't seen a few of those you mention.

I mean the fact that Crash received praise is beyond me. And I'd also include Magic Mike in that list.

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Oooh, I agree with Vexer on God Bless America! God, I loathed that movie with every fiber in my body!


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Vexer wrote:
One film I truly hate that I think has gotten an undeserved amount of praise is "We Need To Talk About Kevin" the subject matter is handled in an incredibly insensitive manner and comes across as an insult to victims and their families of real life massacres, plus the acting is atrocious, especially the guy who plays Kevin, who's not remotely convincing as a psychopath.

Maybe it's just me, but I didn't get that at all. While art should never be exploitative, it should never be apologetic, either. Anyway, I doubt anyone affected by similar massacres even gave this or "Beautiful Boy" a second glance.


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Time for a list.

10 so-called films I find repugnant in some way or another.

In no particular order.

Pearl Harbor
The Adventures Of Pluto Nash
Tyler Perry's Temptation
Hide And Seek
The Blind Side
Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close
The English Patient
Hannibal Rising
The Good Son
Larry Crowne


First off, we have a movie that takes one of the most significant events in American history and reduces it to being nothing more than a backdrop for a trite soap opera.

Eddie Murphy in a movie that offers how many laughs? Zero. Even the truly awful Norbit managed to provoke an occasional snicker. One could argue that Daddy Day Care is even worse. But this is the worst misfire on a resume that became full of them over the past almost two decades.

Got roped into seeing Temptation because a friend wanted to. I'd seen a few Tyler Perry movies before and found them to be not particularly well-done or funny. His brand of comedy has always been elusive to me and no comments about how a white guy like me doesn't get black humor as I've watched and enjoyed numerous black comedies as well as specials and albums by black comedians. This one has Perry in dramatic mode and the result is a soap opera combined with old testament syle moralizing. The truly lovely and talented Jurnee Smollett to her credit manages to do the best with what she has to work with. But she's not helped out at all by the awful screenplay which could easily have been jotted on the back of a matchbook. And the uber-depressing ending would have been effective if it hadn't came off as a piece of trite moralizing. This film didn't leave me questioning the morality of cheating it left me wondering "Why does Tyler Perry hate women so much".

The truly hideous Hide And Seek wastes Robert De Niro (even Pacino hasn't sunk this low) and uses a horrendous story with a child in danger that offers no thrills at all. It also blatantly apes The Shining in more ways than one.

Look up the words Oscar Bait in the dictionary. You'll see a picture of The Blind Side. And Sandra Bullock won an Oscar for this piece of crap?

Extremely Loud And Incredibly Close. It isn't as bad as The Blind Side. It might actually be worse.

Overpraised bloated borefest that stole the Oscar from the much more deserving Fargo. However, there has been some justice here. Fargo is widely regarded nowadays as a modern classic. Its Oscar win notwithstanding The English Patient is deservedly more or less forgotten.

Took one of the greatest screen psychopaths ever and tried to offer a pop psychology reason for why he was the way he was. UGH!!!

Still can't believe that Mccauley Culkin's dad pushed for him to get the role in this reprehensible attempt at a thriller. Mr. Culkin can take credit for helping to ruin his son's career. As for this horrendous piece of garbage, thankfully it's been forgotten by most of the general public.

Finally Larry Crowne was one I found mildly enjoyable when I first watched it. Then I tried re-watching it and realizing that it's the cinematic equivalent of a work supervisor I once had who would constantly say "put a little PEP in your step!". I can appreciate the movie's call for optimism. But it pushes this to the level of obnoxious. To top it off, aside from George Takei's character, it wasn't that funny. Horrible Bosses, which came out around the same time, was no great shakes either. But at least it was funny.


I 'm with you on like all of these, dude. Right on

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H.I. McDonough wrote:
Vexer wrote:
One film I truly hate that I think has gotten an undeserved amount of praise is "We Need To Talk About Kevin" the subject matter is handled in an incredibly insensitive manner and comes across as an insult to victims and their families of real life massacres, plus the acting is atrocious, especially the guy who plays Kevin, who's not remotely convincing as a psychopath.

Maybe it's just me, but I didn't get that at all. While art should never be exploitative, it should never be apologetic, either. Anyway, I doubt anyone affected by similar massacres even gave this or "Beautiful Boy" a second glance.

I didn't expect the film to be "apologetic" but I at least expected the film to handle it with some class, which IMO it did not at all. Another thing I hated about it was clumsily the whole "nature vs. nurture" debate of Swinton's character raising Kevin was presented, and the film implies that some people are born evil, which is flat-out wrong, even the most evil people in history were not born that way, so to imply Kevin was always going to be a complete monster no matter what feels flat out dishonest.


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Larry Crowne, both the character (and the actor playing him) and the movie are so immensely likeable that I don't understand how anyone could outright hate it.

But I guess that's just me.


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Larry Crowne, both the character (and the actor playing him) and the movie are so immensely likeable that I don't understand how anyone could outright hate it.

But I guess that's just me.


Likeable? LIKEABLE? God I hated that movie. Let me count the ways:

Bryan Cranston's character is terribly written, terribly acted, and jaw-droppingly bad. That was the first year when he was getting all sorts of attention for Breaking Bad and I couldn't understand how people could like this terrible actor whose "I like BIG KNOCKERS" scene was among the nadirs of 2011's cinema

A lot of the movie is predicated on the intelligence-insulting idea that cool 20-somethings would flock to dorky Tom Hanks because he has a moped, invite him into their club, give him a makeover, etc. Uh huh.

The moment where Larry reads off his big speech was so sappy that I wanted to cry...cry from the pain the scene caused me as a film-appreciator.

The only redeeming aspect of the movie was George Takei's amusing turn has his economics professor.

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Bryan Cranston is awful in something? Even though the film looks really quite bland, that makes me a bit interested to see it now.


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ilovemovies wrote:
Larry Crowne, both the character (and the actor playing him) and the movie are so immensely likeable that I don't understand how anyone could outright hate it.

But I guess that's just me.


Likeable? LIKEABLE? God I hated that movie. Let me count the ways:

Bryan Cranston's character is terribly written, terribly acted, and jaw-droppingly bad. That was the first year when he was getting all sorts of attention for Breaking Bad and I couldn't understand how people could like this terrible actor whose "I like BIG KNOCKERS" scene was among the nadirs of 2011's cinema

A lot of the movie is predicated on the intelligence-insulting idea that cool 20-somethings would flock to dorky Tom Hanks because he has a moped, invite him into their club, give him a makeover, etc. Uh huh.

The moment where Larry reads off his big speech was so sappy that I wanted to cry...cry from the pain the scene caused me as a film-appreciator.

The only redeeming aspect of the movie was George Takei's amusing turn has his economics professor.


Like I said before. The film wanted you to like it. Unfortunately it ended up reminding me of certain work supervisors I'd prefer to forget about.

If it had been presented as a sort of fantasy escapism in a difficult era I might have been able to buy it. But they tried to present it as reality and that didn't work. Trying to re-do Frank Capra in 2011 just didn't work.

Also the characters were underwitten as James so ably pointed out especially the Cranston character. The majoiry of them were what people on this writer's forum I used to frequent referreed to as "Mary SUe characters" Meaning either 100% good or 100% bad. No depth at all.

Also it was nowhere near as funny as it seemed to think it was. The only real amusing character in it was George Takei.

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Look, I'm not going to pretend that it's a perfect movie and while I suppose I can understand why people wouldn't like it's unabashed optimism and think it as pure fantasy, for me it is that optimism that ultimately won me over. I've seen so many ultra dark movie that it's optimistic view of life felt like a breath of fresh air. Tom Hanks is so warmly appealing that I can't help but root for him and love the guy. He is absolutely loveable in the movie and, as a result, so is the movie itself.

I would never make the mistake of calling the movie realistic and while I love a great dark movie as much as the next guy, sometimes you just want to see a movie that makes you feel great and Larry Crowne fit the bill for me. It wasn't just a feel good movie, it was a feel great movie. It reminded me how much I loved The Terminal, another great, underrated Tom Hanks movie (minus the ill conceived plot line involving Catherine Zeta-Jones character, a sup plot that just absolutely clashes with the movie's otherwise warm, delightful, optimistic tone).


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peng wrote:
Bryan Cranston is awful in something? Even though the film looks really quite bland, that makes me a bit interested to see it now.


I thought Cranston was perfectly fine, okay, in the part although I agree that it's not a well written role. I can imagine the only possible reason for him to even bother with this movie was for the chance to work with Julia Roberts. Can't think of any other reason he would want this part.

Cranston was pretty bad in the Total Recall reboot, but I don't really blame him. The ENTIRE movie was awful from top to bottom.


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ilovemovies wrote:
peng wrote:
Bryan Cranston is awful in something? Even though the film looks really quite bland, that makes me a bit interested to see it now.


I thought Cranston was perfectly fine, okay, in the part although I agree that it's not a well written role. I can imagine the only possible reason for him to even bother with this movie was for the chance to work with Julia Roberts. Can't think of any other reason he would want this part.

Cranston was pretty bad in the Total Recall reboot, but I don't really blame him. The ENTIRE movie was awful from top to bottom.

I thought he was pretty good in the TR remake, i'll definitely take that film over Larry Crowne ANY day of the week.


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Now here's a thread I never visited during the forum's "glory years."

It's been a long time since I've seen a movie I truly hated. Generally, I'm really not that hard to please when it comes to movies. One of the most frequently mentioned movies on here, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, is a movie I like and I believe has some very powerful scenes, but it's too uneven to be Oscar-worthy. Ditto for The Blind Side, which I was interested in mainly because Michael Oher's story is inherently interesting.

The last time I can remember one, though, is the Sylvester Stallone remake of Get Carter. If I were to watch it again today, I would merely find it boring, poorly made garbage. But back then, I had friends who loved it and I could not for the life of me figure out why. So I guess you can say that's what fueled my hate. There's also Robert De Niro's The Good Shepherd, which was so deadly dull that I fell asleep halfway through, and in a movie theater!

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Now here's a thread I never visited during the forum's "glory years."

It's been a long time since I've seen a movie I truly hated. Generally, I'm really not that hard to please when it comes to movies. One of the most frequently mentioned movies on here, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, is a movie I like and I believe has some very powerful scenes, but it's too uneven to be Oscar-worthy. Ditto for The Blind Side, which I was interested in mainly because Michael Oher's story is inherently interesting.

The last time I can remember one, though, is the Sylvester Stallone remake of Get Carter. If I were to watch it again today, I would merely find it boring, poorly made garbage. But back then, I had friends who loved it and I could not for the life of me figure out why. So I guess you can say that's what fueled my hate. There's also Robert De Niro's The Good Shepherd, which was so deadly dull that I fell asleep halfway through, and in a movie theater!


Oh God, The Good Shepherd. What a fucking slog

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Now here's a thread I never visited during the forum's "glory years."

It's been a long time since I've seen a movie I truly hated. Generally, I'm really not that hard to please when it comes to movies. One of the most frequently mentioned movies on here, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, is a movie I like and I believe has some very powerful scenes, but it's too uneven to be Oscar-worthy. Ditto for The Blind Side, which I was interested in mainly because Michael Oher's story is inherently interesting.

The last time I can remember one, though, is the Sylvester Stallone remake of Get Carter. If I were to watch it again today, I would merely find it boring, poorly made garbage. But back then, I had friends who loved it and I could not for the life of me figure out why. So I guess you can say that's what fueled my hate. There's also Robert De Niro's The Good Shepherd, which was so deadly dull that I fell asleep halfway through, and in a movie theater!


Oh God, The Good Shepherd. What a fucking slog


Yeah man, I literally fell asleep in the theater. Hell, I could have drank a cup of coffee beforehand and I still don't think that would've helped.

I've wondered something for a long time. Which is worse: an offensive movie or a boring one? Ebert referenced this conundrum plenty of times, saying that at least an offensive movie was able to inflame him with hatred, whereas a boring one does nothing. It just sits there like a dead zone. What do you guys think?

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KWRoss wrote:
Now here's a thread I never visited during the forum's "glory years."

It's been a long time since I've seen a movie I truly hated. Generally, I'm really not that hard to please when it comes to movies. One of the most frequently mentioned movies on here, Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, is a movie I like and I believe has some very powerful scenes, but it's too uneven to be Oscar-worthy. Ditto for The Blind Side, which I was interested in mainly because Michael Oher's story is inherently interesting.

The last time I can remember one, though, is the Sylvester Stallone remake of Get Carter. If I were to watch it again today, I would merely find it boring, poorly made garbage. But back then, I had friends who loved it and I could not for the life of me figure out why. So I guess you can say that's what fueled my hate. There's also Robert De Niro's The Good Shepherd, which was so deadly dull that I fell asleep halfway through, and in a movie theater!


Oh God, The Good Shepherd. What a fucking slog


Yeah man, I literally fell asleep in the theater. Hell, I could have drank a cup of coffee beforehand and I still don't think that would've helped.

I've wondered something for a long time. Which is worse: an offensive movie or a boring one? Ebert referenced this conundrum plenty of times, saying that at least an offensive movie was able to inflame him with hatred, whereas a boring one does nothing. It just sits there like a dead zone. What do you guys think?


I agree IN THEORY, but with the caveat that an offensive movie that everyone else likes doesn't inflame in a good way, because that angers up the blood

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I thought Get Carter was an OK remake, but not really one of Stallone's highlights. Good Sheperd was pretty damn boring, but I can't say I hated it like I hated say Titanic, which I found to be both offensive and boring.


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