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I'm curious if anyone is going to see this.

I'll be forthright with my opinion: The trailer makes it look like a big CJ for Apple fanboys, and the film is probably going to overlook Steve Jobs' propensity for douche-canoeism. Personally, I think a film about the real Steve Jobs - a guy who was very intelligent, a master marketer, but a better innovator than inventor...and a guy who took a lot of credit for the work of others - would be a bit more interesting.

So, does anyone else have a differing opinion?

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My reservations with the film have more to do with Ashton Kutcher's involvement than the plot approach.

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The trailer makes it look like a big CJ for Apple fanboys, and the film is probably going to overlook Steve Jobs' propensity for douche-canoeism.


I remember a 1999 tv movie Pirates Of Silicon Valley that told the story of the rivalry between Apple and Microsoft. Noah Wyle played Jobs and Anthony Michael Hall was Bill Gates. I found the movie to be entertaining nad pretty fascinating. Yet it also seemed in some ways determined to make Jobs the villain of the whole thing.

One detail that it got right was shown early on when we see Jobs and Steve Wozniak at Berkeley in 1971 trying to avoid a student riot. Jobs points out that the rioters aren't the real revolutionairies. Jobs and Woznial are. Exactly right. They had more long-term impact on American life than those occupying the dean's office.

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Sexual Chocolate wrote:
I'm curious if anyone is going to see this.

I'll be forthright with my opinion: The trailer makes it look like a big CJ for Apple fanboys, and the film is probably going to overlook Steve Jobs' propensity for douche-canoeism. Personally, I think a film about the real Steve Jobs - a guy who was very intelligent, a master marketer, but a better innovator than inventor...and a guy who took a lot of credit for the work of others - would be a bit more interesting.

So, does anyone else have a differing opinion?


I'd like to see that movie. To me, "The Social Network" was the model for that sort of "warts and all" approach.

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When the cast was first announced and pictures compared, he and Ashton Kutcher look so eerily alike that I'm curious. But then I saw the released clip of him in the role, walking and talking, and my interest goes down considerably.


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It looks OK, I have nothing against Kutcher being in the film at all and I really don't care about how Jobs gets portrayed. But in general these types of biopics don't really interest me, honestly The Social Network really didn't do a whole lot for me.


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I'll also admit that Kutcher is a big interest-killer for me. He's a pretty awful actor, and I can't think of anything he's been in that's been remotely good.

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I can't stop picturing the porn-inspired spinoff. It could keep the same title.

In any case, I have problems with the trailer. Number one, Ashton Kutcher. Number two, general predictability (from appearances -- obviously I havent seen teh film). And number three, "The original rebel."

...really?

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I'll also admit that Kutcher is a big interest-killer for me. He's a pretty awful actor, and I can't think of anything he's been in that's been remotely good.

I liked him in films like Killers, Butterfly Effect, Guess Who, Just Married, and What Happens In Vegas. But this is definitely the most high profile role he's ever done, so i'm not surprised that some people are worried about his involvement.

As far as biopics go, i'm much more interested in Captain Phillips and The Fifth Estate.


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Sexual Chocolate wrote:
I'll also admit that Kutcher is a big interest-killer for me. He's a pretty awful actor, and I can't think of anything he's been in that's been remotely good.

I liked him in films like Killers, Butterfly Effect, Guess Who, Just Married, and What Happens In Vegas. But this is definitely the most high profile role he's ever done, so i'm not surprised that some people are worried about his involvement.


No offense, Vex, the the movies you posted are really shitty.

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Sexual Chocolate wrote:
Vexer wrote:
Sexual Chocolate wrote:
I'll also admit that Kutcher is a big interest-killer for me. He's a pretty awful actor, and I can't think of anything he's been in that's been remotely good.

I liked him in films like Killers, Butterfly Effect, Guess Who, Just Married, and What Happens In Vegas. But this is definitely the most high profile role he's ever done, so i'm not surprised that some people are worried about his involvement.


No offense, Vex, the the movies you posted are really shitty.


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Sexual Chocolate wrote:
Vexer wrote:
Sexual Chocolate wrote:
I'll also admit that Kutcher is a big interest-killer for me. He's a pretty awful actor, and I can't think of anything he's been in that's been remotely good.

I liked him in films like Killers, Butterfly Effect, Guess Who, Just Married, and What Happens In Vegas. But this is definitely the most high profile role he's ever done, so i'm not surprised that some people are worried about his involvement.


No offense, Vex, the the movies you posted are really shitty.

Well that's one man's opinion, but not a fact. My tastes aren't necessarily always the opposite, as for the most Kutcher's films aren't exactly critically reviled.


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What exactly was so bad about The Butterfly Effect? I thought it was pretty good. I think Kutcher can pull off Jobs, although I'm not holding my breath.

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What exactly was so bad about The Butterfly Effect? I thought it was pretty good. I think Kutcher can pull off Jobs, although I'm not holding my breath.

Right, even the people that didn't normally like him at least thought that film was pretty good.


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I thought The Butterfly Effect was goofy the first time I saw it.

I doubt I'd think any better of it if I saw it today.


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I have little to no interest in seeing this, but it did make me wonder: what is the fastest turnaround from someone dying to the release of their high-profile biopic? It seems like this one has come around awfully fast; Jobs hasn't even been dead for 2 years.

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Jeff Wilder wrote:
I remember a 1999 tv movie Pirates Of Silicon Valley that told the story of the rivalry between Apple and Microsoft. Noah Wyle played Jobs and Anthony Michael Hall was Bill Gates. I found the movie to be entertaining nad pretty fascinating. Yet it also seemed in some ways determined to make Jobs the villain of the whole thing.

One detail that it got right was shown early on when we see Jobs and Steve Wozniak at Berkeley in 1971 trying to avoid a student riot. Jobs points out that the rioters aren't the real revolutionairies. Jobs and Woznial are. Exactly right. They had more long-term impact on American life than those occupying the dean's office.


I own the film and use it frequently on my classes, and it's quite the contrary. Jobs is portrayed as the conflicted rebel with personal issues, while Gates is almost one-dimensional as the "evil" mastermind. Jobs is the one that the film follows through most of the time, and it's the one that they want the audience to root for giving him a more personal baggage to empathize with.

The film isn't excellent, but it's quite solid AND accurate according to some of the people depicted in it. Even Jobs himself invited Wyle to "play" him at the beginning of the 1999 Macworld Expo.

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I have little to no interest in seeing this, but it did make me wonder: what is the fastest turnaround from someone dying to the release of their high-profile biopic? It seems like this one has come around awfully fast; Jobs hasn't even been dead for 2 years.


Well his sainthood is only a matter of time. Jesus Christ the guy changed the way we...listened to music.

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Yeah. Ditto for Kutcher. He can really only play Kelso on That 70's Show, and that got old pretty quick. Still, he looked okay in the trailer, so maybe he'll surprise me like Justin Timberlake did in The Social Network and Alpha Dog.

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Yeah. Ditto for Kutcher. He can really only play Kelso on That 70's Show, and that got old pretty quick. Still, he looked okay in the trailer, so maybe he'll surprise me like Justin Timberlake did in The Social Network and Alpha Dog.


But Timberlake's "surprise" came more from the prejudiced notion that he would suck, what with being a pop-star and whatnot. He just turned out to be a pretty good actor and surprised us all. Kutcher has had more than a decade to "surprise" us and has failed so far.

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