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I don't know if it's just people and wishful thinking, but I heard rumors that Ebert had written a review of the new Terrence Malick film, but it hasn't been published online yet. That would be a much better ending to a wonderful career.


It's not a rumor; Jim Emerson mentions it in his obituary. He also mentions a couple of other reviews that haven't been published, but doesn't say what they are to.

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Yeah, I read somewhere that To The Wonder is his last review (or one of his last reviews) that he submitted, and he gives it 3.5 stars I think. Apart from the fitting circumstance of it being a Terrence Malick film (and he really liked it), the film's title alone is just perfect and beautiful for his last review to go out on.


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Over the past two days I've been doing nothing but reading all the great memories people have been sharing about Roger Ebert. The best ones have already been collected into one single page on RogerEbert.com. One piece, by Linda Holmnes, in particular, I found said something perfectly for me:

"There's always been Roger Ebert. And when I read that he had died Thursday, that's what caught in my throat. Not just sadness, but bafflement. I don't understand. There's always been Roger Ebert.

This will be the first night in my life I go to bed and he's not out there thinking about movies. And perhaps it's an odd description of sadness, but: It's weird.

By the time I was born, he was already a writer, and by the time I could process the idea of criticism, he already was a columnist and had a TV show with Gene Siskel — then called Sneak Previews — on public television, which I watched with my parents. There was always, always, always Roger Ebert."

That is the difficulty a lot of us are faced with right now. Long before I began watching films (or was even born), Roger Ebert was a titan in reviewing them. When I started watching films, he was there to guide me through cinephilia. When I began to consider myself a cinephile, Ebert was the one voice (along with JamesB) I always looked to read. Now suddenly, he's not there to review the next film I intend to see. It is an uneasy feeling which is going to take quite some time to get used to.

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Syd Henderson wrote:
sunshineisles2 wrote:
I don't know if it's just people and wishful thinking, but I heard rumors that Ebert had written a review of the new Terrence Malick film, but it hasn't been published online yet. That would be a much better ending to a wonderful career.


It's not a rumor; Jim Emerson mentions it in his obituary. He also mentions a couple of other reviews that haven't been published, but doesn't say what they are to.

Ah, yes, now I see. Thank god he didn't go out with "The Host"

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"There's always been Roger Ebert. And when I read that he had died Thursday, that's what caught in my throat. Not just sadness, but bafflement. I don't understand. There's always been Roger Ebert.

This thought hit me a few hours after I heard the news, when I was driving home from work. We now live in a world without Roger Ebert. Most of us have never done with that. For movie fans, he truly did seem ever-present.

I noticed earlier that his death is one of the items in Wikipedia's front page "in the news" sidebar. That's fascinating, because Wikipedia generally doesn't include celebrity deaths in that box and keeps only a handful of major world news events in rotation. That's a cool measure of Ebert's importance.

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Roger Ebert: Remaking My Voice (TED Talk)

Some of you might've seen this already, but I just came across this right now and felt I had to share it. I already had multiple lumps in my throat but watching that video definitely brought them to my eyes. Seeing Ebert and his wife Chaz in that video is a reminder of how difficult it must've been during those times, despite all of Ebert's optimism in his blogs, and how they soldiered along as a couple through them.

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Alas... Roger Ebert's review of "To the Wonder"
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20130406/REVIEWS/130409984

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I think his scale hit me when I read a review of Cool Hand Luke, that had actually been written by him at the time of release in 1967.

I was just assuming it was some kind of retrospect, until I saw the date stamp at the bottom.

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It appears that Roger Ebert will be afforded a rather high honor. One typically given to the funerals of dead soldiers. A select honor one might say.

For his progressive views on gay rights, Roger Ebert's funeral will be picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church.

Rest in peace Ebert, you obviously did well.

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It appears that Roger Ebert will be afforded a rather high honor. One typically given to the funerals of dead soldiers. A select honor one might say.

For his progressive views on gay rights, Roger Ebert's funeral will be picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church.

Rest in peace Ebert, you obviously did well.

Can't we just call them a hate group and move on?


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thered47 wrote:
It appears that Roger Ebert will be afforded a rather high honor. One typically given to the funerals of dead soldiers. A select honor one might say.

For his progressive views on gay rights, Roger Ebert's funeral will be picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church.

Rest in peace Ebert, you obviously did well.

Can't we just call them a hate group and move on?


Here's an idea. When one of them dies, let's picket their funeral with signs saying "God REALLY hates intelrant bigots".

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Sean wrote:
thered47 wrote:
It appears that Roger Ebert will be afforded a rather high honor. One typically given to the funerals of dead soldiers. A select honor one might say.

For his progressive views on gay rights, Roger Ebert's funeral will be picketed by the Westboro Baptist Church.

Rest in peace Ebert, you obviously did well.

Can't we just call them a hate group and move on?


Here's an idea. When one of them dies, let's picket their funeral with signs saying "God REALLY hates intelrant bigots".

I remember hearing about that one guy who was found with a bunch of weapons who had planned to murder several members of the WBC, part of me wishes that he had succeeded, cause that's one massacre I doubt too many people would be upset over.


Mon Apr 08, 2013 8:18 pm
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Back really on topic: I think Roger Ebert had the writing skills to inform people about the background and "family tree" of a movie without ever sounding preachy or lecturing. He came up with stuff in the middle of a review such as: (non verbatim) "we don't know but we suppose that whe won't die within the next ten minutes otherwise life would be unmanageable" - just awesome. All the praise isn't enough.


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I love his review of Sideways. He completely got it, and saw it the same way i did!

I felt like a more literate version of me had written it.

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Last word on the WBBs (Westboro Baprtist Bigots).


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Personally I think the best way to deal with westboro would be to convince any media to at least not photograph or video tape them and have aby counter protest consist of a large number of people walk past them talking about the weather. Unfortunately the just ignore them approach would require the cooperation of too many people to really be effective.

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Treat them like exactly what they are: pathetic losers whose only means of getting attention is to goad people. They're the YouTube commenters of the world. Don't assault them and don't engage them in conversation. There's nothing anybody can say or do in this regard that won't be handing them exactly what they want.

(Plus, while I can't substantiate this with evidence, I've heard that one of their primary sources of funding is lawsuit winnings from all the times their members have been physically assaulted. Let's try to avoid this.)

As Jeremy pointed out, it's asking a bit much to ask everybody to simply ignore these people, considering that they're the equivalent to drunk college students talking loudly in a library while everybody else is trying to study. If you must acknowledge them, then you must refuse to take them seriously. Furthermore, treat them as an object of satire. Drive the wind from their sails by making it so that nobody else can take them seriously either.

The best handling of any large-scale WBB picketing group that I know of occurred at San Diego Comic-Con a few years ago.

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Ken wrote:
Treat them like exactly what they are: pathetic losers whose only means of getting attention is to goad people. They're the YouTube commenters of the world. Don't assault them and don't engage them in conversation. There's nothing anybody can say or do in this regard that won't be handing them exactly what they want.

(Plus, while I can't substantiate this with evidence, I've heard that one of their primary sources of funding is lawsuit winnings from all the times their members have been physically assaulted. Let's try to avoid this.)

As Jeremy pointed out, it's asking a bit much to ask everybody to simply ignore these people, considering that they're the equivalent to drunk college students talking loudly in a library while everybody else is trying to study. If you must acknowledge them, then you must refuse to take them seriously. Furthermore, treat them as an object of satire. Drive the wind from their sails by making it so that nobody else can take them seriously either.

The best handling of any large-scale WBB picketing group that I know of occurred at San Diego Comic-Con a few years ago.

True, though some Youtube commenters are actually quite intelligent, but you definitely can't say the same thing about any members of the WBC.

A more apt comparison would be commenters on gossip sites like TMZ, there's no intelligent lifeforms anywhere on there, I treat them as a complete joke, as you should do for the WBC.


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The new look site is very cool indeed: http://www.rogerebert.com/

:cry:

Anyways, I'll probably visit it a lot to check out a lot of the old stuff/Great Movies. The new writers are good and I may also read them from time to time.

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I had a debate with someone on YouTube over Terrence Malick's movies. Just a few comments in, he calls me pretentious for defending his work. Typical.


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