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Do you think 3D will ever go away?

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Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:20 pm
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Re. Obama and Romney: JB might get a kick out of this.

(Though he's not on the most recent update of this graph for obvious reasons, Ron Paul slots in slightly below and to the left of Gary Johnson.)


Tue Aug 28, 2012 10:37 pm
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I disagree with James on Obama, trrue he didn't accomplish as much as I had hoped, but he still did do plentty of good, the health care reform bill helped out a lot of people, including myself, he brought the automotive industry back in Detroit, I think he definitely deserves to run the country. I agree on Romney though, that guy is truly pathetic, no sane person would vote for him.


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The problem is with the polarization of politics. You can't just disagree with anyone if you're a Congressman, you have to destroy them. There's a group of neocons that are holding up EVERYTHING just to make Obama look bad. They're so out there that they freak out a number of republicans. And they are being voted in again and again because the constituents are angry and being fired up by people like Bill O'Reilly and Hannity & Colmes.

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I realize there are certain issues that perhaps Democrats and Republicans are remarkably similar on. I mean, the fact that Obamacare was derived from the Massachussettes Romneycare plan and originally endorsed by numerous conservative groups before a democratic president managed to pass it, is a good example of this.

But as a gay man, I cannot see any similarities between the two parties. One has declared me unworthy of any basic human rights, the other, while far from perfect, at least tries occasionally to acknowledge that us queers are human beings.
-Jeremy


Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:11 pm
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Vexer wrote:
I disagree with James on Obama, trrue he didn't accomplish as much as I had hoped, but he still did do plentty of good, the health care reform bill helped out a lot of people, including myself, he brought the automotive industry back in Detroit, I think he definitely deserves to run the country. I agree on Romney though, that guy is truly pathetic, no sane person would vote for him.


Let's not forget he took out Bin Laden. I mean that wasn't an easy accomplishment given how many years it took.


Tue Aug 28, 2012 11:57 pm
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thered47 wrote:
I realize there are certain issues that perhaps Democrats and Republicans are remarkably similar on. I mean, the fact that Obamacare was derived from the Massachussettes Romneycare plan and originally endorsed by numerous conservative groups before a democratic president managed to pass it, is a good example of this.

But as a gay man, I cannot see any similarities between the two parties. One has declared me unworthy of any basic human rights, the other, while far from perfect, at least tries occasionally to acknowledge that us queers are human beings.
-Jeremy


They're similar in how they both work not for the benefit of the people but for the benefit of themselves. I'm gay too, but your argument about the two parties stances on civil rights are hard to totally defend seeing as Obama only took a definitive stance on gay marriage leading up to preparations for this election. Obama has given little beyond his word as to why he should be reelected, Romney's given us even less as to why he should take Obama's place and all congress has done the last four years is make persuasive arguments for the entire body's replacement. Same tactics for political survival, and in the end the only ones screwed are us.


Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:00 am
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Vexer wrote:
I disagree with James on Obama, trrue he didn't accomplish as much as I had hoped, but he still did do plentty of good, the health care reform bill helped out a lot of people, including myself, he brought the automotive industry back in Detroit, I think he definitely deserves to run the country. I agree on Romney though, that guy is truly pathetic, no sane person would vote for him.


Let's not forget he took out Bin Laden. I mean that wasn't an easy accomplishment given how many years it took.

Yep, that was a very happy day indeed, on a related note, I saw the teaser trailer for Zero Dark Thirty, and i'm very excited to say the least.


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I don't understand why James doesn't like Facebook but he likes twitter. I HATE twitter's 140 character limit. Facebook has a character limit, but it's not nearly as bad as twitter's. It's long enough that you don't usually have to worry about it.

Am definitely interested in his novel. I wonder, with so many authors having surprising success with self publishing, is that the way James is gonna go? Or is he going the traditional route?


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Hey if it becomes a bestseller, Hollywood may option it and he can give us the inside scoop of Hollywood!

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moviemkr7 wrote:
Do you think 3D will ever go away?


No, although I think its eventual use will be limited to horror movies, animated movies, and some blockbusters. I believe we're close to the way it will eventually look now. 2-D versions are available alongside 3-D versions of almost every film.


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I don't understand why James doesn't like Facebook but he likes twitter. I HATE twitter's 140 character limit. Facebook has a character limit, but it's not nearly as bad as twitter's. It's long enough that you don't usually have to worry about it.

Am definitely interested in his novel. I wonder, with so many authors having surprising success with self publishing, is that the way James is gonna go? Or is he going the traditional route?


Leaning toward electronic publishing. The biggest drawback of that approach is that you have to market it yourself, which can be expensive. I'll need to recruit someone to create the cover/poster art and farm out ads over google in addition to creating a website and facebook page. But I can sell the thing for $1.99, which is highly appealing. Plus, my experience with the mainstream publishing industry was seriously damaged the last time I worked within them. Unless you're a bestselling author, it can be an ugly industry.


Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:32 am
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JJoshay wrote:
thered47 wrote:
I realize there are certain issues that perhaps Democrats and Republicans are remarkably similar on. I mean, the fact that Obamacare was derived from the Massachussettes Romneycare plan and originally endorsed by numerous conservative groups before a democratic president managed to pass it, is a good example of this.

But as a gay man, I cannot see any similarities between the two parties. One has declared me unworthy of any basic human rights, the other, while far from perfect, at least tries occasionally to acknowledge that us queers are human beings.
-Jeremy


They're similar in how they both work not for the benefit of the people but for the benefit of themselves. I'm gay too, but your argument about the two parties stances on civil rights are hard to totally defend seeing as Obama only took a definitive stance on gay marriage leading up to preparations for this election. Obama has given little beyond his word as to why he should be reelected, Romney's given us even less as to why he should take Obama's place and all congress has done the last four years is make persuasive arguments for the entire body's replacement. Same tactics for political survival, and in the end the only ones screwed are us.


Your forgetting that he had the DOJ stop defending DOMA in court long before that, as well as repealing DADT over two years ago. Repealing DADT you have to admit is pretty concrete.
-Jeremy


Wed Aug 29, 2012 10:40 am
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Twitter is just a stripped down Facebook and for that reason I'm in two minds about it. The character limit is a minor annoyance but if you need more than 140 of them, you're on the wrong site.

Jackson gave us the best movie trilogy of all time and people still doubt him? At the very worst I'd say he's possibly at the mercy of studios but I'm giving him 100% benefit of the doubt.

America seems to have the same problem with politics as the UK. The people running for office labour under the delusion that their views somehow matter and that winning the 'race' gives them the right to exercise these views.


Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:25 pm
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Dragonbeard wrote:
Twitter is just a stripped down Facebook and for that reason I'm in two minds about it. The character limit is a minor annoyance but if you need more than 140 of them, you're on the wrong site.

Jackson gave us the best movie trilogy of all time and people still doubt him? At the very worst I'd say he's possibly at the mercy of studios but I'm giving him 100% benefit of the doubt.

America seems to have the same problem with politics as the UK. The people running for office labour under the delusion that their views somehow matter and that winning the 'race' gives them the right to exercise these views.

Jackson can try and say he's trying to "stay true" to the book all he wants, but like James I find it very hard to believe that money had no part in his decision to split the film in thirds.


Wed Aug 29, 2012 1:40 pm
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Hm. I tried to stop myself, but here goes.

In a great many respects, Barack Obama is a right-wing authoritarian in left-libertarian clothing. He drastically increased the number of armed UAV strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan, which have proven to be unreliable in distinguishing between enemy combatants and civilians. While Obama made a noble public stand against the SOPA legislation, he had already signed ACTA months before, essentially an international and wider-reaching version of SOPA that the federal government deliberately hid from American citizens until it was done. Despite Obama's popular negative stance on offshore drilling following the BP oil spill, he was pro-drilling before that and that attitude has quietly resurfaced in time since.

Many of Obama's advisors are conservative members of the previous administration, former banking executives, and lobbyists for big pharma. Through the signing of free trade agreements, he has expanded the power of multinational conglomerates and allowed more outsourcing of jobs. Obama has extended the Bush tax cuts favoring the wealthy, and the Bush-era lavish defense spending has only ballooned further under his guidance.

Guantanamo Bay is still open. The National Defense Authorization Act is now an American law. These are all things that would have gotten Obama's very own voters calling for Bush's head if Bush had done them. Instead, satisfied simply to have Obama running the show, his devotees sweep all this shit under the rug like an embarrassing family secret. People accept the bread and circuses, celebrate the small changes while the big things stay the same. They emphasize the minute, borderline insignificant differences between Obama and his opponent so they don't have to face the fact that they are largely indistinguishable in the big picture. Those inconvenient details are culled out when the vetting process for the leader of our country is reduced down to a simple choice between A or B.

I don't mean to say that Obama has done nothing good, but I don't understand how anyone who sincerely holds left-libertarian values can give their vote to this man and continue to sleep at night.


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Post Re: August 28, 2012: "FAQ: Addendum"
thered47 wrote:
I realize there are certain issues that perhaps Democrats and Republicans are remarkably similar on. I mean, the fact that Obamacare was derived from the Massachussettes Romneycare plan and originally endorsed by numerous conservative groups before a democratic president managed to pass it, is a good example of this.

But as a gay man, I cannot see any similarities between the two parties. One has declared me unworthy of any basic human rights, the other, while far from perfect, at least tries occasionally to acknowledge that us queers are human beings.
-Jeremy



Gay Marriage and antiDODTism are hardly 'basic human rights'. One is at its base a game of semantics the other concerns organizational policy. You can argue until you're blue that they're justified but that doesn't put them on par with freedom of speech or religion.


James wrote:
One central belief, however, is that both major parties are corrupt to the core, ruled over by special interest groups. Their positions are calcified, their methods inflexible. I have been deeply disappointed by Obama's first term. Little of note was accomplished (partially as a result of Congressional gridlock)


I never understood the concept of being disgusted with the policies of all parties and in the same breath despising the resulting 'gridlock'. If you hate what both parties are doing gridlock can be a very good thing, since it limits the damage that can be done especially if you're one who believes government's role should be restrained and not some big sugerdaddy striding the world wiping everybody's mouth. It may be especially apt these days to consider that neither the Dems nor Repubs have done very much good at all in their latest stretches of unopposed power.


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Ken wrote:
Hm. I tried to stop myself, but here goes.

In a great many respects, Barack Obama is a right-wing authoritarian in left-libertarian clothing. He drastically increased the number of armed UAV strikes in Pakistan and Afghanistan, which have proven to be unreliable in distinguishing between enemy combatants and civilians. While Obama made a noble public stand against the SOPA legislation, he had already signed ACTA months before, essentially an international and wider-reaching version of SOPA that the federal government deliberately hid from American citizens until it was done. Despite Obama's popular negative stance on offshore drilling following the BP oil spill, he was pro-drilling before that and that attitude has quietly resurfaced in time since.

Many of Obama's advisors are conservative members of the previous administration, former banking executives, and lobbyists for big pharma. Through the signing of free trade agreements, he has expanded the power of multinational conglomerates and allowed more outsourcing of jobs. Obama has extended the Bush tax cuts favoring the wealthy, and the Bush-era lavish defense spending has only ballooned further under his guidance.

Guantanamo Bay is still open. The National Defense Authorization Act is now an American law. These are all things that would have gotten Obama's very own voters calling for Bush's head if Bush had done them. Instead, satisfied simply to have Obama running the show, his devotees sweep all this shit under the rug like an embarrassing family secret. People accept the bread and circuses, celebrate the small changes while the big things stay the same. They emphasize the minute, borderline insignificant differences between Obama and his opponent so they don't have to face the fact that they are largely indistinguishable in the big picture. Those inconvenient details are culled out when the vetting process for the leader of our country is reduced down to a simple choice between A or B.

I don't mean to say that Obama has done nothing good, but I don't understand how anyone who sincerely holds left-libertarian values can give their vote to this man and continue to sleep at night.

Left-Libertarian? Never heard that term before, but i'm definitely not a libertarian in any way, my political beliefs are also a bit over the map, so i'm not sure what term would be used to describe my viewpoints(moderate I guess). Look I won't say Obama isn't without his faults, i'm certainly not proud of some of the things he's done(especially not the NDAA) but considering what the alternative is, i'd still gladly vote for him over anyone else, I think you're wrong about one thing Ken, there's a HUGE difference between Obama and Romney.


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Ken's analysis is pretty much spot-on. I think that American liberalism is in relatively sorry shape if we're treating something pretty minor like the repeal of DADT as a major victory.

And for the record, I too am highly disappointed in Obama. He's a better candidate than Mitt Romney, but saying that is a lot like saying you'd prefer to shit your pants on a cold winter day than shit them on a hot summer day. Either way, the result is the same. I'm probably going to vote for the Socialist Party.

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