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Or maybe those people have legitimate reasons for disliking it, maybe Ridley Scott has lost his touch and people just wanted the film to be better then it really was.

I will not deny that this is possible in theory, but I have yet to see anybody make a convincing argument for this movie being anything less than maybe a 2.5/4 at the lowest.

With Internet fan culture (and its long-held tradition of having zero capacity for self-examination), there tends to be a pretty steep drop-off after "great". Either it's awesome or it's a dismal failure. There is no room for any finer degrees in between.


Yeah I can see that viewpoint. I was disappointed, to be certain. And I think the movie is not successful. But the filmmaking is such that I can't give it lower than a **1/2

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I caught Chronicle which was decent enough, I suppose. Frankly, I expected a bit more given the praise the film received here. Perhaps some of that praise is because expectations were low or because there weren't too many good movies out at the time? In any case, Chronicle is decently acted and has an interesting spin on the superhero genre but it's nothing revelatory and does opt for the cringe-inducing found-footage style. 6/10.


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I caught Chronicle which was decent enough, I suppose. Frankly, I expected a bit more given the praise the film received here. Perhaps some of that praise is because expectations were low or because there weren't too many good movies out at the time? In any case, Chronicle is decently acted and has an interesting spin on the superhero genre but it's nothing revelatory and does opt for the cringe-inducing found-footage style. 6/10.


I think it's better than you're giving it credit for. It's the best school-shooting movie ever made, for one, even though it doesn't feature a school shooting

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I caught Chronicle which was decent enough, I suppose. Frankly, I expected a bit more given the praise the film received here. Perhaps some of that praise is because expectations were low or because there weren't too many good movies out at the time? In any case, Chronicle is decently acted and has an interesting spin on the superhero genre but it's nothing revelatory and does opt for the cringe-inducing found-footage style. 6/10.


I think it's better than you're giving it credit for. It's the best school-shooting movie ever made, for one, even though it doesn't feature a school shooting


And here come the Gus Van Sant fans!

I agree, by the way. On this one and Van Sant's crapfest.

My biggest problem with Chronicle was that by the end of the film the found footage premise turned into a gimmick. Still a very good movie, though.


Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:19 pm
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Well, that wasn't quite so bad that it was good, but damn it came close. I've heard about it and read a review or two so I knew what to expect. However I was still disappointed, as I'd read the book by Chrichton, which I remember enjoying reading as a kid, so the level of stupidity still caught me off guard.

I'm not really sure where to begin. There seemed a lot of elements thrown in just for the sake of having them. Erupting volcanos, killer apes, (which I recall from the book) plus killer hypotamouses, political strife, collapsing cave mines, and so on, which my memory is a bit foggy on. Plus the whole genetic memory issue (while scientifically implausable) was an interesting touch in the book, but never really brought up in the movie, which was a shame. In the film, it was just "oh we're just going to trust this ape which has never been to the area and hope she knows the way to where we're going because she once made a drawing of an open eye and looks rather like this other eye on a ring that Tim currey has (and eyes are obviously very uncommon symbols that almost no one uses), because well, it is obvious evidence that she must know, well, *something*."

1 star out of 4.
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Tue Jun 12, 2012 9:39 pm
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PeachyPete wrote:
JamesKunz wrote:
ed_metal_head wrote:
I caught Chronicle which was decent enough, I suppose. Frankly, I expected a bit more given the praise the film received here. Perhaps some of that praise is because expectations were low or because there weren't too many good movies out at the time? In any case, Chronicle is decently acted and has an interesting spin on the superhero genre but it's nothing revelatory and does opt for the cringe-inducing found-footage style. 6/10.


I think it's better than you're giving it credit for. It's the best school-shooting movie ever made, for one, even though it doesn't feature a school shooting


And here come the Gus Van Sant fans!

I agree, by the way. On this one and Van Sant's crapfest.

My biggest problem with Chronicle was that by the end of the film the found footage premise turned into a gimmick. Still a very good movie, though.

I enjoyed Chronicle as well but the one guy's "transformation" felt a bit contrived,
[Reveal] Spoiler:
accidentally throwing up on a girl while she's giving you a blowjob sounds like something you'd see in a Judd Apatow film, not in a film like this, it just looked out of place ot me
and the whole time I was watching the film, I was thinking about how the found footage gimmick didn't really add anything to the film.


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The Iron Giant (1999)

One of my very favourite books of all time is The Iron Man by Poet Laureate, Ted Hughes. A wonderful story of how a boy gradually befriends a giant iron man in his homely English villiage and how the villiage and eventually the world come to accept him.

I'm surprised in this case that I only got around to watching the film adaptation last night, 13 years after its release.

Some things have changed. Firstly the story is moved from (old) England to New England. And of course there are some significant story alterations - but I will say this, the alterations, much to my great surprise, don't wholly diminish the story or message. Which is remarkable really.

The film is not the equal of the book, but it is a genuinly tasteful adaptation nontheless and the for me it gets the look and feeling of the giant/man himself bang on the money. Ultimately, Brad Bird is a good film maker.

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Perfect Sense: Ewan McGregor and Eva Green star as two people who enter into a relationship just as humanity is starting to break down. All over the world, people have lost their sense of smell, and over a small period of time, other senses start to fade as well, one by one. Director David Mackenzie, working with a low budget, keeps everything suitably intimate and personal, providing small glimpses at the bigger picture without removing the focus from the central characters. There are some truly harrowing moments, particularly when people realize their senses are fading and make last-gasp attempts to take everything in before it's gone, but there are some deeply affecting moments as well, as everyone learns to continue on with their lives, if only for a short while before the next change. Like the equally overlooked and tonally similar Never Let Me Go, Berardinelli gave this film a dismissive **1/2 rating. Personally, I found it an incredibly moving and effective piece of work, and it stands a good chance of finding its way into my top 10 at the end of the year. 9/10.


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Perfect Sense: Ewan McGregor and Eva Green star as two people who enter into a relationship just as humanity is starting to break down. All over the world, people have lost their sense of smell, and over a small period of time, other senses start to fade as well, one by one. Director David Mackenzie, working with a low budget, keeps everything suitably intimate and personal, providing small glimpses at the bigger picture without removing the focus from the central characters. There are some truly harrowing moments, particularly when people realize their senses are fading and make last-gasp attempts to take everything in before it's gone, but there are some deeply affecting moments as well, as everyone learns to continue on with their lives, if only for a short while before the next change. Like the equally overlooked and tonally similar Never Let Me Go, Berardinelli gave this film a dismissive **1/2 rating. Personally, I found it an incredibly moving and effective piece of work, and it stands a good chance of finding its way into my top 10 at the end of the year. 9/10.


Thanks for your write-up. Added it to my queue.

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The film is not the equal of the book, but it is a genuinly tasteful adaptation nontheless and the for me it gets the look and feeling of the giant/man himself bang on the money


I would have preferred this movie if they had eschewed the laxative jokes, dumb beatnik characterizations and single-note villains. I felt they had a wonderful little movie in their hands but they were like "Hey we need to make this kid-friendly" and so dumbed down their film.

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Prometheus (2012)

Let's start off with some other views first:

JamesKunz wrote:
Ken wrote:
Vexer wrote:
Or maybe those people have legitimate reasons for disliking it, maybe Ridley Scott has lost his touch and people just wanted the film to be better then it really was.

I will not deny that this is possible in theory, but I have yet to see anybody make a convincing argument for this movie being anything less than maybe a 2.5/4 at the lowest.

With Internet fan culture (and its long-held tradition of having zero capacity for self-examination), there tends to be a pretty steep drop-off after "great". Either it's awesome or it's a dismal failure. There is no room for any finer degrees in between.


Yeah I can see that viewpoint. I was disappointed, to be certain. And I think the movie is not successful. But the filmmaking is such that I can't give it lower than a **1/2


I find quite a bit to like about Prometheus and quite a bit to shake my head at. Probably 80% of my problems with the film come from the script and 20% from Scott's direction. Don't get me wrong, MOST of what I like about the film comes from Scott's direction, but there are scenes where character actions are quite abrupt and things just seem overly rushed. As a standalone sci-fi movie, I probably would have given this 3 stars. But I agree with Kunz that in its current incarnation, that the tie-in to the Alien franchise should have been jettisoned. The audacity of the main plot (expedition to discover an alien origin to human life) was strong enough to stand on its own; the allusions to the other movies served only as a distraction and engendered unwelcome comparisons. If it was truly intended that the planet in Prometheus was to become the same world as in Alien and Aliens, then there were too many inconsistencies to where this one left off and the next one begins that it really knocked off a full star from my rating. Another movie would be required to fix those threads leaving this one with a 2.0 / 4.0 in my book.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
Specific notpicks
-If this is the same world as in Alien, how does the space jockey get his helmet back on and get into his pilot's chair?
-Like in Aliens, where does the "Warning signal" emanating from the planet in Alien come from (or in Aliens...where did it go?)
-What was David's motivation for infecting Holloway?
-So the space jockey is woken up after 2000 years and the first thing he decides to do is go on a muderous rampage. No questions; no inquiry, just kill, kill, kill. Huh?
I got more...but those were the big ones.


Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:59 am
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Balaji Sivaraman wrote:
Prometheus (2012) - ***1/2 out of ****

I fail to see why this film is getting such a bad rap from everywhere. From what I've been reading, people are highlighting some really valid complaints that they have with this film. However, these complaints are also valid for both Alien films and people never seem to talk about those in the same vein.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Alien Stupid Scene
There's a deadly Alien terrorizing the ship and Harry Dean Stanton's character goes off wandering to find a cat alone without any weapons. It just doesn't get more stupid than that for me.


One other complaint I read is that people really failed to understand the first scene.
[Reveal] Spoiler: Prometheus First Scene Thoughts
The Engineer voluntarily ingests the black substance to kill himself and mix with the ocean water. I think this works better when taken together with Dr. Shaw's finding that the DNA of the engineer and human beings match. In that time, when there is no life form on Earth, the Engineer kills himself thereby spreading his DNA throughout our planet. And human beings evolve from that.




[Reveal] Spoiler:
Recall that in Alien, when Brett is hunting the cat, they still thought that the alien was the little scrappy "worm" that had emerged from Kane; not the 8-foot killing machine it had become. They were hunting it with cattle prods and nets. In hindsight it was stupid, but he was after the cat and at that point they thought the xenomorph was scared of them.

I understood the opening scene of Prometheus, but with an exact DNA match to modern human that is "scattered in the water", it does little to explain all of the other life forms on Earth (unless those were pre-existing) or previous versions of man (unless some monkey somewhere drank in the DNA and then it slowly converted monkey into man. I suppose, according to Devo, "God made man, but the monkey supplied the glue."


Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:16 am
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johnny larue wrote:
Balaji Sivaraman wrote:
Prometheus (2012) - ***1/2 out of ****

I fail to see why this film is getting such a bad rap from everywhere. From what I've been reading, people are highlighting some really valid complaints that they have with this film. However, these complaints are also valid for both Alien films and people never seem to talk about those in the same vein.

[Reveal] Spoiler: Alien Stupid Scene
There's a deadly Alien terrorizing the ship and Harry Dean Stanton's character goes off wandering to find a cat alone without any weapons. It just doesn't get more stupid than that for me.


One other complaint I read is that people really failed to understand the first scene.
[Reveal] Spoiler: Prometheus First Scene Thoughts
The Engineer voluntarily ingests the black substance to kill himself and mix with the ocean water. I think this works better when taken together with Dr. Shaw's finding that the DNA of the engineer and human beings match. In that time, when there is no life form on Earth, the Engineer kills himself thereby spreading his DNA throughout our planet. And human beings evolve from that.




[Reveal] Spoiler:
Recall that in Alien, when Brett is hunting the cat, they still thought that the alien was the little scrappy "worm" that had emerged from Kane; not the 8-foot killing machine it had become. They were hunting it with cattle prods and nets. In hindsight it was stupid, but he was after the cat and at that point they thought the xenomorph was scared of them.

I understood the opening scene of Prometheus, but with an exact DNA match to modern human that is "scattered in the water", it does little to explain all of the other life forms on Earth (unless those were pre-existing) or previous versions of man (unless some monkey somewhere drank in the DNA and then it slowly converted monkey into man. I suppose, according to Devo, "God made man, but the monkey supplied the glue."

What I was always was why the they brought a damn cat on the ship to begin with, there was no reason for the cat being there other than to generate predictable jump scares.


Wed Jun 13, 2012 11:46 am
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What I was always was why the they brought a damn cat on the ship to begin with, there was no reason for the cat being there other than to generate predictable jump scares.


Possibly for alternative companionship...why do people own cats in the first place? Or possibly to catch mice or other unwanted stow-aways? Jonesy wound up being a pretty good xenomorph detector...when he wanted, I guess...


Wed Jun 13, 2012 12:13 pm
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Awf Hand wrote:

In an aside, I was listening to a classical radio station as I worked in the field a couple weeks ago when they played a work by Salieri.
All I could think was "You killed Mozart!! You bastard!!"


Poor Salieri. Everybody thinks it and it didn't, you know, actually happen


You suggesting that Amadeus is not a rigid history lesson?! :lol:

Altered States William Hurt as a scientist who explores the depths of the human mind using psychotropic drugs and a sensory deprivation tank. The theory is that every single human memory ever stored is contained within every human mind. He finds himself going farther than anyone ever believed possible, arriving at the “first thought” of developed hominid, and actually having his physical state altered to that level. Sounds really good from that description? Would’ve lured me in. That’s for sure. BTW, there’s this woman that loves him. This was one from my sci-fi top 100 list of films.
While this may have been a cool made-for-TV movie, I couldn’t be drawn into it. The story felt a bit synthetic and we have the feeling that we are watching an addict spin out of control into a complete loss of self. That may have been more satisfying if that had been our destination. The ending was abrupt, meant to artificially satisfy with no courtesy of explanation of WTF happened. By that time I didn’t care. Many of the special effects came directly from the ain’t-it-cool bin and had little to no semblance of what the main character was experiencing. There are only so many close-ups of blood cells or synthesized event-horizons that make sense when we’re supposed be viewing a probe into the psyche. –To be honest, I was glad for my fast-forward during one of the more protracted of these trippy sequences. I found the Dr. Jessup (Hurt) character a bit distant and shallow, thinking that perhaps that Hurt wouldn’t have been my first choice for this role.
The Fly was much more fulfilling.

I give this one a tepid 2 out of 4


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Awf Hand wrote:
JamesKunz wrote:
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In an aside, I was listening to a classical radio station as I worked in the field a couple weeks ago when they played a work by Salieri.
All I could think was "You killed Mozart!! You bastard!!"


Poor Salieri. Everybody thinks it and it didn't, you know, actually happen


You suggesting that Amadeus is not a rigid history lesson?! :lol:


The movie did bring more attention to Salieri's music as well as Mozart's. I wouldn't mind seeing the one they were making fun of. And Mozart's, of course. The only Mozart opera I've seen is Cosi fan Tutte, which is a delight and not mentioned in the movie.

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Recall that in Alien, when Brett is hunting the cat, they still thought that the alien was the little scrappy "worm" that had emerged from Kane; not the 8-foot killing machine it had become. They were hunting it with cattle prods and nets. In hindsight it was stupid, but he was after the cat and at that point they thought the xenomorph was scared of them.

I understood the opening scene of Prometheus, but with an exact DNA match to modern human that is "scattered in the water", it does little to explain all of the other life forms on Earth (unless those were pre-existing) or previous versions of man (unless some monkey somewhere drank in the DNA and then it slowly converted monkey into man. I suppose, according to Devo, "God made man, but the monkey supplied the glue."
Fair enough. I didn't think of it like that when I saw that and therefore felt that it was stupid for someone to be wandering alone in a spaceship with an alien on the loose, one that exactly didn't announce itself as being friendly. As for your other thought, I agree with you. That is one aspect that isn't really explored. For me, I didn't give it that much thought since that wasn't what the film was really aiming at. However, it is a completely valid point.

Vexer, The presence of the cat didn't really bother me. In space, you really aren't going to have that much personal companionship apart from your crew mates. I can understand why one of those people would want to bring along a cat.

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The Iron Giant (1999)

One of my very favourite books of all time is The Iron Man by Poet Laureate, Ted Hughes. A wonderful story of how a boy gradually befriends a giant iron man in his homely English villiage and how the villiage and eventually the world come to accept him.

I'm surprised in this case that I only got around to watching the film adaptation last night, 13 years after its release.

Some things have changed. Firstly the story is moved from (old) England to New England. And of course there are some significant story alterations - but I will say this, the alterations, much to my great surprise, don't wholly diminish the story or message. Which is remarkable really.

The film is not the equal of the book, but it is a genuinly tasteful adaptation nontheless and the for me it gets the look and feeling of the giant/man himself bang on the money. Ultimately, Brad Bird is a good film maker.

8/10

I liked this movie a lot, and I'm betting most people (I did) came to it like you did: well after the fact.

Did anybody actually see this in theaters?

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The movie did bring more attention to Salieri's music as well as Mozart's. I wouldn't mind seeing the one they were making fun of. And Mozart's, of course. The only Mozart opera I've seen is Cosi fan Tutte, which is a delight and not mentioned in the movie.

The only Salieri opera I specifically remember being in the movie is Axur. It's a good'un.

I've seen Figaro and The Magic Flute, but I have yet to see the #1 on my Mozart opera bucket list: Don Giovanni. MSU did Don Giovanni and Figaro together in a series, but for some reason they put Don Giovanni first and I didn't find out about it in time. That really creamed my corn.


Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:16 pm
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Balaji Sivaraman wrote:
johnny larue wrote:
[Reveal] Spoiler:
Recall that in Alien, when Brett is hunting the cat, they still thought that the alien was the little scrappy "worm" that had emerged from Kane; not the 8-foot killing machine it had become. They were hunting it with cattle prods and nets. In hindsight it was stupid, but he was after the cat and at that point they thought the xenomorph was scared of them.

I understood the opening scene of Prometheus, but with an exact DNA match to modern human that is "scattered in the water", it does little to explain all of the other life forms on Earth (unless those were pre-existing) or previous versions of man (unless some monkey somewhere drank in the DNA and then it slowly converted monkey into man. I suppose, according to Devo, "God made man, but the monkey supplied the glue."
Fair enough. I didn't think of it like that when I saw that and therefore felt that it was stupid for someone to be wandering alone in a spaceship with an alien on the loose, one that exactly didn't announce itself as being friendly. As for your other thought, I agree with you. That is one aspect that isn't really explored. For me, I didn't give it that much thought since that wasn't what the film was really aiming at. However, it is a completely valid point.

Vexer, The presence of the cat didn't really bother me. In space, you really aren't going to have that much personal companionship apart from your crew mates. I can understand why one of those people would want to bring along a cat.

I know that, but it still seemed like a really contrived way to bring out jump scares when the film really didn't need it, granted it's only a minor nitpick but still.


Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:27 pm
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Date Night

Genuine chemistry and some wonderful moments between Tina Fey and Steve Carrell aren't enough to lift this movie from the "enjoyable time waster" to "good" level. Things just got too silly. Now I would have watched 90 minutes of those two just living their lives and interacting, it would have made a good sitcom. On the run from the mob and dirty cops, not so much.

I still would like to have babies with Tina Fey, though.


Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:39 pm
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Just introduced some friends to L.A. Confidential the other night. One friend's response at the end of the movie: "This might have had a better thought out plot than The Departed." Hard to think of a more ringing endorsement than that and while I would never wanna slight The Departed, which I also consider to be an American masterpiece, I would probably have to agree with my friend!


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