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Why the Three-Act-Structure?
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Threeperf35
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 Why the Three-Act-Structure?
This might seem obvious, but I did some reading about this topic lately and there seem to be (at least) two different opinions: 1) almost any movie can be clearly devided into three acts, sometimes the act breaks are very easy to pinpoint. Of course the three acts are: setup (roughly 25% running time), confrontation (roughly 50% running time), resolution (roughly 25% running time).
2) forget about the three acts, movies are mainly about problem solving, don't think in acts, think in smoothly flowing story arcs. If you want to sell your screenplay and the producer asks about the three acts, simply explain the beginning, middle and end.
Perhaps I didn't read the right material (it was all online), but I was wondering: So many films have multiple storylines and parallel premises, others have completely unusual structures (Psycho for excample), others are told in non-linear fashion (obviosly: Once Upon a time in America, Memento, Irreversible, 21 Grams...), others have multiple twists, false endings or long epilogues...
Sure: your typical action movie telling the story of one single hero most likely has a simple three act structure with all subplots being just filler but many of the really great movies have more complex structures with more than just one story arc.
My question (why the heck do I sound like Mark Kermode here?? No idea...): is there still (or again) some kind of "we need three acts" - mentality among Hollywood movie producers, or is it a "natural" structure and even complex or "non linerar" movies should feel like it? I mean 2001 or Once Upon a Time in the West (by coincidence (?) both 1968) can't be three act movies...
P.S. if this topic is a dead horse, please let me know. I apologize in advance if that is the case.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:21 pm |
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Frogster
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I think it's a question of how you choose to present the story. Even a movie like Memento could be turned into a traditional action movie through a linear progression of events. The story isn't changing, it's just the way you choose to tell it. Any movie could be presented linearly or non-linearly, but some would be better shown one way or another, and some movies it would have no effect. As for Hollywood, F$#@ Hollywood.
No but seriously, I just hope the person in charge of a movie knows what he's doing and the best way to present it. If that means a three-act structure, so be it. I think today there is a pretty healthy mix of non-linear and linear narrative. Maybe I'd like a little less of the three-act structure and some more unusual narratives, but there aren't a lot of people capable of creating that.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:40 pm |
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Ken
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Everything has "three acts" if you boil it down enough. This probably doesn't yield as much insight into life and cinema as Syd Field hopes it does.
In order to get a movie made, often the movie has to be pitched to people who are... well, idiots. They are not capable of understanding why Taxi Driver's two acts (yes, two!) can be divided by crucial points in the character's development, but they are capable of understanding the rather facile "This is what happens at the beginning, this is what happens in the middle, and this is what happens at the end."
Superman is a good example of a movie that has three clear acts, and not just because of the Syd Field paradigm.
Die Hard is an example of a movie that has three clear acts, essentially sticking to the Field paradigm like glue.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:51 pm |
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JamesKunz
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Well the movies cling to formula in general, so once three-act became standard it makes sense that others would slavishly follow it.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:12 pm |
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Threeperf35
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Excellent points. I was also thinking of Die Hard (and Alien) as three act movies. I'd like to pinpoint the act breaks in Superman and taxi Driver (I believe in your two act analysis - the "resolution" at the end is open to discussion): What do you say: the act breaks in Superman (1978)are: 1) after the complete back story - The Metropolis "Daily Planet" Newspaper building is shown: act two begins. 2) Supes gets really angry, flies out into space and starts spinning Earth (and thus time) backwards to save Lois Lane, reverse catastrophic events and get Lex Luthor. The act break in Taxi Driver might be where he kicks his tv set? (= I'm done and gone bonkers for good)? The first act break in Die Hard occurs when the bad guys appear (dead easy). The first act break in Alien occurs once the face hugger (= the Alien) is on board the spaceship. Now for the second-to-third act breaks of the aforementioned: I need to see these movies again. Yes my memory is that bad (or my ability to analyze movie narrative structures). Feedback anyone?
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:17 pm |
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Ken
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I would place the transitions in Superman at the arrival in Kansas and the arrival in Metropolis. They're three different locations, three different looks, and three different sets of narrative concerns.
I would place the point of transition in Taxi Driver at or around the scene in which Travis attempts to tell Wizard about his problems, because that's the last point where he could have been helped.
I'm a little foggy on Alien myself, but there is one turn of phrase Field has used to describe the final act in his paradigm: the ticking clock. Therefore, I would pick McClane's discovery of the time bomb as, quite literally, a textbook example of a final act transition.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:30 pm |
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Threeperf35
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 Re: Why the Three-Act-Structure?
Hmm-kay. That would make Superman's three act structure a little unbalanced. Or can we perhaps subdivide the Metropolis (= after the backstory) part further down into three acts? How could I forget? Yes: Wizard (Peter Boyle) desperately tries to calm down the Robert DeNiro character, but fails miserably. Definitely a defining plot point. Yep: the ticking clock. I read about that. Yes that is definitely where Alien's third act starts. I know it doesn't have to do with the story's internal logic. It has to do with how the audience's emotions are manipulated. That's why I try to see even movies told in non-linear fashion the way things unfold. Sure we try to counterbalance (most likely in vain since we need to pay attention at every moment to what's actually on screen) the non-linear structure when we watch the movie (and perhaps analyze it long after watching) but in the end all that counts is the order in which the movie actually unfolds.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 8:47 pm |
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Ken
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Acts don't necessarily come in equal sizes. Remember, even in the Field paradigm, the second act is roughly twice the length of the first and third.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:00 pm |
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Threeperf35
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Makes a lot of sense. Another movie which has a razor sharp divided three act structure is E.T. My humble guesses: act break 1: Elliott accepts E.T. in his home. Act break 2: the message arrives that the fellow aliens are coming back to get E.T. and bring him home (the light glows once again and Elliott knows) - and the followiong chases and escape attempts.
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| Tue Apr 17, 2012 9:00 pm |
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Awkward Beard Man
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| Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:53 pm |
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Jonsh
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 Re: Why the Three-Act-Structure?
Act 1: The Dawn of Man Act 2: Earth and Space, 11 Years Ago Act 3: Jupiter (and Beyond the Infinite) (I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West, so I can't comment on that one...)
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| Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:18 pm |
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thered47
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 |  |  |  | Jonsh wrote: Act 1: The Dawn of Man Act 2: Earth and Space, 11 Years Ago Act 3: Jupiter (and Beyond the Infinite) (I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West, so I can't comment on that one...) |  |  |  |  |
Why are you lumping the moon sequence and journey to Jupiter together? Different characters engaging in different (albeit similar) activities and I'm pretty sure there's an intermission between the two. Act 1: The Dawn of Man Act 2: Moon Sequence Act 3: Journey to Jupiter Act 4: Jupiter (and Beyond the Infinite) -Jeremy
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| Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:39 pm |
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Threeperf35
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 |  |  |  | thered47 wrote:  |  |  |  | Jonsh wrote: Act 1: The Dawn of Man Act 2: Earth and Space, 11 Years Ago Act 3: Jupiter (and Beyond the Infinite) (I haven't seen Once Upon a Time in the West, so I can't comment on that one...) |  |  |  |  |
Why are you lumping the moon sequence and journey to Jupiter together? Different characters engaging in different (albeit similar) activities and I'm pretty sure there's an intermission between the two. Act 1: The Dawn of Man Act 2: Moon Sequence Act 3: Journey to Jupiter Act 4: Jupiter (and Beyond the Infinite) -Jeremy |  |  |  |  |
Thank's Jeremy. I thought exactly the same. Moon sequence (including the discovery of the second Monolith) and the Journey to Jupiter (HAL) are two completely different stories with very little connection. Then there's the short Epilogue after the "Stargate" sequence. Of course Once Upon a Time in the West can be broken down int three acts as well, but that would be very incomplete, it would be: 1) Shootout at the Rairoad Station 2) Massacre at the Farm, Jill arriving, a lot of other stuff happening.... 3) The Duel plus epilogue. ... well I wouldn't do that because "act" 2 needs a lot of work and is clearly not just subdivided but also has five main characters interacting with each other in very complex ways: Jill, Cheyenne, Harmonica, Frank and Mortimer. It took me repeated viewings (at the time theatrical re-runs) to figure it all out.
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| Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:23 pm |
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thered47
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I think films need to be working within some kind of structure in order to function. It does not need to strictly follow a specific structure, but it needs to be there and I think films that try to function without any kind of structure at all (or follow a structure that makes no sense for the story in question) are going to fail.
I mean take films like The Illustrated Man or Oliver Stone's Alexander, films which really don't have clearly delineated structures and ultimately the worse off for them. Alexander (or at least the version I saw) shows several disparete episodes of Alexanders life (his youth, his experiences with his father and mother, being tutored, his epic conquests, his various lovers both male and female, etc) but is structured in (what felt to me) in a random non-chronological order.
Re-watching Batman Begins I felt pretty much the same way. I thought the fact that there is a random non-chronological order to the first half, robs the narrative of a lot of power. There was no reason for anything other than Batman's youth (his falling into the bat cave, his parents murder) to be told in flashback. The film should have simply been linear from the point Bruce Wayne returns from college for the release of his parents murderer, then have him traveling the world in poverty, then have him trained by the League of Shadows, then coming back to Gotham. There was no need to jumble all that up. The Dark Night, by being pretty much completely linear is a much better film for being more intelligently structured.
Sorry got off a bit on a tangent there, but my point is this, there is nothing wrong with following a three act structure, but no reason to adhere to it either as long as some sort of cognisant structure is followed. I think several people here have pointed out films that have very succesful 3 act structures. Take films like Fellini Satyricon which have no discernible structure (or plot for that matter) and are pretty much unwatchable unless stoned or otherwise inhibited, thanks to a complete lack of structure. Other films have structures that are not easily delineated into different "acts" (or whose structure bucks predictable patterns) but otherwise are very well structured. Full Metal Jacket has two clearly delineated acts. Pulp Fiction tells parrallel stories but since it's completely non-chronological, your act structures would have to break down according to film time, not real time. Ditto Sin City. Similarly, I don't think The Social Network can easily be delineated into acts but it sticks to specific structure (using the lawsuits in the present day as a framing device, in place of a voice over) and therefore is still able to work.
Ultimately I think a screenwriter has to think about what kind of structure they want for their film. Again it does not need to be 3 acts or 4 acts or 5 acts, or even to have a structure based on the concept of "acts". A poorly structured film will have characters meandering from point A to point B with little rhyme or reason and will quickly become tedious to sit through. Experimental art films that try and buck the very concept of structure are usually the worst offenders here. Even films with simplistic structures, but execute them well, will usually be at least bearable to sit through.
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| Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:10 pm |
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Ken
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Kubrick's movies tend to wear their structure on their sleeves, to the point where some of them even have title cards to signify act breaks.
His favored term was "non-submersible unit" in the place of "act", though. I suppose that makes sense, though it's kind of a mouthful. Using a different term distinguishes it with a different purpose. An act is a segment of a whole arc, whereas in Kubrick's model, the segments are often self-contained save for their thematic relationships and in-story continuity with one another.
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| Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:40 am |
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JamesKunz
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Citizen Kane, it should be mentioned, is the consensus best film of all time and cannot be described (by anyone not suffering from whatever that scientific fallacy is of consciously or unconsciously shoehorning your results into your hypothesis) as a three-act film.
I also like TheRed's point about Full Metal Jacket, which has two very, very clearly delineated acts. In fact when I showed my wife the movie I only showed her part 1 so she would never know how badly part 2 ruins everything
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| Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:22 am |
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Ken
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The subject has come up elsewhere. |  |  |  | Ken wrote: Warning: long-ish post incoming.
Syd Field is the screenwriting guru who convinced everybody in Hollywood that the three act structure is the only way to make a movie. I will humor him for a moment.
In the Field paradigm (horrible word, but he uses it), the first act is about the first quarter of the movie--not the first 10 minutes. The third act is the last quarter, not the last five minutes. This means that half the movie (much less than assumed by WWTDD Guy) is made up of the second act.
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Sidebar: The first 10 minutes has been referred to by Field and the others as the period when the viewer gets to know the movie. By that, they mean that you learn which character types and genre you're dealing with, plus develop a decent expectation of how the plot will unfold.
Essentially, in a "good" movie, the first 10 minutes tells you how the whole movie is going to be. I personally find this cynical and restrictive, but it often proves to be true.
The last five minutes of the movie is the resolution of the final act, where we find out what happens to all these people after their ordeal is over.
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So, in a two hour movie, act one lasts for a half hour. That's when you learn the characters, their wants, their needs, their troubles, their flaws, their virtues, etc. Then, at the half-hour point, a Big Plot Thingy happens that embroils the characters in whatever conflict is driving the movie. Then you're into act two.
In act one, John McClane arrives in California. We find out that he's a New York cop, kind of a loose cannon, he's estranged from his family, and he and his wife have all kinds of unresolved issues. Unbeknownst to them (but knownst to us), terrorists have entered the building. The terrorists meet up with the supporting characters, let them (and us) know what they're after, and along the way we learn that their leader, Hans, is a slick dude with a plan to steal all the doubloons. They're a bunch of organized German guys with guns, so they're probably bad news.
What happens at the half hour mark? McClane, who has been sneaking around, sees Hans paint the walls with so-and-so's brains. BAM. First body of the movie. The getting-to-know-you period is over. Henceforth, McClane springs into action. His goal: kill all the terrorists before they can harm anybody else, including his wife.
To skip ahead to act three, somewhere around the last half hour mark is when there is no longer any possibility of turning back. Something--another Big Plot Thingy--something happens that puts the heroes and villains in a do-or-die, ticking timebomb sort of situation where the conflict absolutely must end, one way or the other.
What happens in Die Hard at the last half hour mark? McClane finds the explosives near the top of the building, a literal ticking timebomb. He now knows that the terrorists never had any intention of letting anybody get out of that building alive, and that the people in the building are under a greater threat than they've previously imagined. There's your do-or-die moment.
So... act two. What happens in act two?
In the romantic sense, you test the characters. You put them in situations that test their physical prowess, their intelligence, their moral fiber, and otherwise prepare them for their big final test at the end of the movie. This is referred to by Field as complication and development.
In the unromantic sense, you just find a number of reasons why the big final conflict can't happen yet. It's a bunch of stumbling blocks between point A and point B. That's it.
We're dealing with conventional movie plotting--in other words, churning out product on an assembly line--so there is no reason to romanticize act two. It's a series of contrivances that puts off the inevitable. It stalls for time.
So no, it is not a big deal that Men In Black III went into production without a second act. Iron Man's script was in a similar condition at the start of production, and that turned out pretty well. Just find some crap to shovel into the middle of the movie. It's not as disastrous as it sounds, at least by tentpole summer movie standards.
Answer me this: is there really a substantive difference between "a logical progression of events where Will Smith figures out how to save Tommy Lee Jones" and "Smith shouting things that really don’t need to be shouted and him telling us how handsome he is"?
I mean really, is there? I offer the previous two movies in the series for consideration.
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Another sidebar: the Field paradigm is commonly assumed to be the last word on screenplay construction, but it really isn't. The trouble with the Field assumption is that it relies on confirmation bias. You can look at anything that begins and ends (and what doesn't?) as falling into three parts in one way or another.
This ignores alternative act breakdowns that spring specifically from the material, rather than some predetermined assumption.
Taxi Driver, for example, has two acts. The first one is about Travis and his struggles to get along in this world. The second is about his great plan to strike back. 2001: A Space Odyssey has four acts, and Kubrick was even kind enough to label them on the screen for our convenience. Superman has three acts, but not in the Field sense. In fact, the third act is by far the longest and most development-heavy of the movie.
When you see a movie that obviously conforms to the Field paradigm (not just for the facile reason that everything does), it's most likely because it was made with the Field paradigm in mind. These tend to be the most commercial, most pitch-friendly movies. That's why I cite Die Hard as an example. It is the ultimate in conventional, formulaic moviemaking.
If a retarded film executive can understand your plot breakdown, you have a much better chance of securing funding for your movie. And every retarded film executive who thinks he knows everything has probably internalized the Field paradigm into his brain chemistry. |  |  |  |  |
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| Tue May 15, 2012 4:40 pm |
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thered47
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 Re: Why the Three-Act-Structure?
Personally, I've always wondered if there was a connection between film structure and sexual intercourse.
Consider: Act 1: Intro -> Inciting incident Foreplay -> partner says yes -> penetration
Act 2: Rising Conflict... Thrusting...
Act 3: Climax -> resolution -> denouement Climax -> cigarette.
I'm not sure if this means anything other than maybe the 3 act structure is too simply that anything can be thrust into with a bit of effort. Or more precisely, it's a matter of defining the three act structure so broadly that only a small handful of films/activities will fall outside that structure.
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| Wed May 16, 2012 11:21 am |
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Ken
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Of course there is.
Note also the similarities between sex and telling a joke, playing a hand of Hold 'Em, getting a table at a restaurant...
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| Wed May 16, 2012 2:15 pm |
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Awf Hand
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For some, playing a hand of Hold 'Em and sex are one in the same. I think Thered47 offered a pretty good outline. introduce characters. complicate their lives. fix them. Unless it's a French movie. lousy French.
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