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CANNIBAL HOLOCAUST (1980) 
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Click here for the review of Cannibal Holocaust (1980)

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A few years ago I was discussing the issue of movie violence with someone. I observed that to me, movie violence is nowhere near as disgusting as real world violence. I won't watch something like "Faces Of Death" or snuff films because I don't need that stuff in my head. But I'm not one to get mad about the violence in films the way certain puritan rocks for brains like Robertson do.

I haven't actually seen Cannibal Holocaust. Based on what I've read here, it sounds like something I have no interest in.

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Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:23 pm
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Great review, thanks James! It was the turtle-gutting scene that really got me as well.


Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:43 pm
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Jesus, this film seems like one of those "Faces of Death" films.


Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:45 pm
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Robert Kerman, was better known during this era by his porn name of "R. Bolla," under which he made more than 100 adult films (including Debbie Does Dallas). Kerman's performance, stiff though it is, impresses more than those of his non-porn co-stars


Poor choice of words in the bolded part, don't you think?


Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:49 pm
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So is this "better" or "worse" than A Serbian Film and Salo? I haven't seen those, but am morbidly curious where Cannibal Holocaust ranks in the exploitation hierarchy. I have had the misfortune of having seen Martyrs, and felt decidedly unclean afterwards so avoid these films in general.


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Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:04 pm
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It's weird how we're all repulsed by violence yet some people have a morbid curiosity about it. To this day there are people who continue to examine and dissect execution footage, televised suicides, recorded accidental deaths at sporting events, etc.


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I appreciated this movie a bit more than JB, but good review

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Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:29 pm
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I appreciated this movie a bit more than JB, but good review


I deliberated for so long after seeing this if it was a zero star, or four star movie. In my mind it succeeded in its intentions (and in my expectations) but failed in its (at times) grotesque execution.

CH is a film to be remembered not only for its faux criminal controversy but as one that insights debate.


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Nitrium wrote:
So is this "better" or "worse" than A Serbian Film and Salo? I haven't seen those, but am morbidly curious where Cannibal Holocaust ranks in the exploitation hierarchy. I have had the misfortune of having seen Martyrs, and felt decidedly unclean afterwards so avoid these films in general.


If you're at all interested in exploitation/grindhouse cinema, then Cannibal Holocaust is a must-see. It's one of the all-time defining exploitation films.

Keep in mind that CH is not good or bad in the way we traditionally think of a movie as good or bad. By reasonable standards, it's an awful film. But Deodato set out to make a brutal, nihilistic film, and by those standards CH succeeds incredibly; even after all these years it still packs a hell of a whallop.

The film also has something to say; I've always been of the opinion that exploitation films often do...they just say them in the crudest, most blunt way possible.

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If you're at all interested in exploitation/grindhouse cinema, then Cannibal Holocaust is a must-see. It's one of the all-time defining exploitation films.


So if CH is kinda more Grindhouse, then presumably the tone of the film is more like Hobo With a Shotgun, Machete or Tokyo Gore Police (all of which I've seen), as opposed to Martyrs, Inside, The Human Centipede 1/2 or A Serbian Film etc?


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Ah yes, the Italian Citizen Kane. Or is it Mary Poppins?

I've heard about this for 30 years, but never had the guts to watch it (sorry about the pun). I doubt that will change.

I give JB credit for not only sitting through this, but then writing a full review about it. Interesting (and entertaining) choice by Prometheus.


Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:47 am
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Question to JB: You mention in your review that there are worse exploitation films out there than "Cannibal Holocaust". Considering some of the content in that film, I find that opinion quite confounding. What could be possibly "worse" than "Cannibal Holocaust"?


Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:15 am
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Good review, but I think it would have been worth adding that there was a short-lived fad of Italian cannibal movies in the late 70ies/early 80ies to provide more of a context.

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Question to JB: You mention in your review that there are worse exploitation films out there than "Cannibal Holocaust". Considering some of the content in that film, I find that opinion quite confounding. What could be possibly "worse" than "Cannibal Holocaust"?


Good question. "Ilsa, She-Wolf of the SS", perhaps? "Cannibal Ferox"? "I Spit on your Grave"?

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If you're at all interested in exploitation/grindhouse cinema, then Cannibal Holocaust is a must-see. It's one of the all-time defining exploitation films.


So if CH is kinda more Grindhouse, then presumably the tone of the film is more like Hobo With a Shotgun, Machete or Tokyo Gore Police (all of which I've seen), as opposed to Martyrs, Inside, The Human Centipede 1/2 or A Serbian Film etc?


I think SexualChocolate is referring to original 70ies "grindhouse" movies aka expoitation movies rather than the Tarantino/Rodriguez double feature which spawned "Machete" etc. The latter films are all postmodern and self-aware, which makes them less, well, sincere than stuff like "Cannibal Holocaust"


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I've seen it too, and was taken aback at the audacity. Granted, European cinema can be quite extreme in the horror/gore department - no doubt about that, be it Salo, High Tension and yes the recent Serbian Film. Something you won't see in the good ol' US of A.


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Unke wrote:

I think SexualChocolate is referring to original 70ies "grindhouse" movies aka expoitation movies rather than the Tarantino/Rodriguez double feature which spawned "Machete" etc. The latter films are all postmodern and self-aware, which makes them less, well, sincere than stuff like "Cannibal Holocaust"


That's about right.

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Robert Kerman, was better known during this era by his porn name of "R. Bolla," under which he made more than 100 adult films (including Debbie Does Dallas). Kerman's performance, stiff though it is, impresses more than those of his non-porn co-stars


Poor choice of words in the bolded part, don't you think?


What makes you think it wasn't intentional?


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Nitrium wrote:
So is this "better" or "worse" than A Serbian Film and Salo? I haven't seen those, but am morbidly curious where Cannibal Holocaust ranks in the exploitation hierarchy. I have had the misfortune of having seen Martyrs, and felt decidedly unclean afterwards so avoid these films in general.


Haven't seen either (yet). SALO will be my next video review.


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I knew you wouldnt get it..! I implored James to watch this film because it annoys me how mainstream pampered reviewers claim Blair Witch Project triggered the "lost footage" routine. To his credit, he acknowledges that CH was the "founder" but I do think you have been harsh. To an outsider who hasnt seen or heard of this, 1 star would suggest its absolutely not worth bothering with, or bothering with if you want to watch shit. In my opinion (of course) CH is easily worth a watch. Maybe I've seen enough terribly acted / shot exploitation type films and am unfairly comparing to them but CH by the standards of those (Cannibal Ferox etc etc etc ) isnt bad. Yes, you get the impression it is 2nd string actors but it isnt so bad that you become easily disconnected.

James also says there is nothing unsettling about this film and it is ordinary. I again would disagree. The authenticity and the sense of being lost and trapped in the dense Amazon jungle combined with the realism of scenes (although i 100% am against the real animal killings) is quite unsettling. I quit sausages after watching this film.

Lastly, no mention was given to the score. The music, though appearing on the face cheery, is somehow fitting and unsettling, providing a strange undercurrent. There is also despairing music where you do get the feeling that something dreadful happened. Personally it kept me connected throughout its running length, and that is not a sign of a film with terrible acting and poor cinematography.


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SALO will be my next video review


any ETA on that? looking forward to it.


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