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Doesn't surprise me a bit. There are certain people in big business and in the inner circles of corporations who are actually threatened by OWS. They would do anything just to get them off the streets. Funny that OWS would be a target from certain corporations while the same corporations would fund a Tea Party rally.

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Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:08 pm
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corpen11 wrote:
There are certain people in big business and in the inner circles of corporations who are actually threatened by OWS. They would do anything just to get them off the streets.


What does that have to do with the article? So a douchebag lobby firm sends a proposal to American Bankers Association unsolicited asking them to pony up $850k to construct "negative narratives" about OWS, and the ABA tells them to get lost. I guess the ABA wouldn't "do anything" to get OWS off the street. Where's the smoking gun here?


Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:30 pm
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johnny larue wrote:
corpen11 wrote:
There are certain people in big business and in the inner circles of corporations who are actually threatened by OWS. They would do anything just to get them off the streets.


What does that have to do with the article? So a douchebag lobby firm sends a proposal to American Bankers Association unsolicited asking them to pony up $850k to construct "negative narratives" about OWS, and the ABA tells them to get lost. I guess the ABA wouldn't "do anything" to get OWS off the street. Where's the smoking gun here?


It shows a mindset to where certain people in corporations would think to use low, dirty tactics to ruin a person or a group of people; that's the smoking gun. Fortunately, the ABA told them to fuck off.


Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:39 pm
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To me, this is the key quote of the article:

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“… (T)he bigger concern,” the memo says, “should be that Republicans will no longer defend Wall Street companies.”


That's the smoking gun, the ultimate proof that corporate America has completely bought one of our two major political parties lock, stock and barrel. The sad reality is that the Democrats are not very far behind. All Americans should be outraged that our government has gone to sale for whoever pays the most money.

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Sat Nov 19, 2011 8:44 pm
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Sexual Chocolate wrote:
To me, this is the key quote of the article:

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“… (T)he bigger concern,” the memo says, “should be that Republicans will no longer defend Wall Street companies.”


That's the smoking gun, the ultimate proof that corporate America has completely bought one of our two major political parties lock, stock and barrel. The sad reality is that the Democrats are not very far behind. All Americans should be outraged that our government has gone to sale for whoever pays the most money.


The problem is that most of the American people are getting their news from the wrong people or care more about frilly, frothy news that won't impact their lives in the least. Money talks and the cash will make anyone turn back on their beliefs.


Sat Nov 19, 2011 10:57 pm
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When I was jobless...I was too busy GETTING a job to camp out anywhere and protest. I worked my ass off finding a job while I collected unemployment...

If these people are taking money from the government for unemployment while simply protesting and saying they aren't getting enough from the government they are the ultimate hypocrites. But again when I visited the protests briefly here in Albany NY it was a joke. Mostly just people that wanted attention and didn't know why they were even really there. The same people that will show up for a protest of ANYTHING.

I'm all for making your voice hear and bla bla bla...but it really has just turned into a joke with the media showing VERY one sided coverage of protesters being harassed and persecuted. I know a few police officers that have had to deal with the crap in Albany. They are trying to keep people safe and the roads clear and the parks from turning into a shanty town. It's not some secret mission to destroy the protests.


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Of course corps own government. This is the way governments wants it. This is the way liberals and socialists should want it.

Do you think that anyone, even the socialists, complained when easy credit was knocking about. If the US is anything like the UK (and I believe it is) then your government, in the casino banking years, was at once raking in huge taxes and borrowing freely from the markets to fund public spending. I bet none of the Democrats and liberal complained then.

The banks and deregulation were essential to the big government model. This fact is overlooked by too many people.

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Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:23 am
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NotHughGrant wrote:
Do you think that anyone, even the socialists, complained when easy credit was knocking about. If the US is anything like the UK (and I believe it is) then your government, in the casino banking years, was at once raking in huge taxes and borrowing freely from the markets to fund public spending. I bet none of the Democrats and liberal complained then.
Sadly, we tend not to push for problems to be solved until the problems present themselves. I'm sure there were prescient people among us who foresaw the folly of the practices that led to the mortgage crisis, but who would listen to them?

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The banks and deregulation were essential to the big government model. This fact is overlooked by too many people.
The Clinton years weren't exactly lean, but the banks weren't deregulated until his last year. It would seem that deregulation was the result of lobbying on the part of banking conglomerates rather than any actual necessity.

Unless your definition of "big government" excludes regulation (commonly included) and includes free reign of the private sector (commonly excluded).


Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:04 am
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My definition of big government is a big spending government, and here in the UK the Labour Party spent, and borrowed, massively.

This would not have been possible without the pyramid schemes being run in the finanical sector and the taxes and cheap credit (for the government) they brought. The markets were basically built on a lie but the government, and everyone who has a vested or ideological interest in big government, benefitted from this lie at the time when the treasury was raking in cash.

This is the reason the statist left have no answer whatsoever to the financial crisis.

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