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James Berardinelli
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 pm Posts: 2775 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ, USA
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 WARRIOR
Click here for the review of WarriorSPOILERS must be tagged with the "SPOILER" tag!
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| Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:19 pm |
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Jeff Wilder
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Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:07 pm Posts: 1165
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That was the first movie I thought of when I saw the trailer. I might see it. I might not. Time will tell
_________________ This ain't a city council meeting you know-Joe Cabot
Cinema is a matter of what's in the frame and what's out-Martin Scorsese.
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| Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:07 pm |
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oafolay
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Wow! I figured that at least a solid 3-star recommendation wouldn't be out of the question but I certainly didn't expect this to be a candidate for James' end-of-the-year Top 10. Now I've read in some other reviews that Nick Nolte could be a candidate for another Oscar nomination; how likely do you think this will be? Just wondering.
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| Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:26 pm |
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James Berardinelli
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Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 pm Posts: 2775 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ, USA
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Depends on the strength of the field. The Supporting categories are often weak, so it's not out of the question.
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| Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:07 am |
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ed_metal_head
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Same here. I continue to grow more optimistic about the rest of the year. I'll certainly check out Warrior sometime though probably when it's out on DVD. And, my interest in Drive is already sky-high and just continues to grow (saw the tweet on the front page). At this point I'm trying to temper expectations so that I won't be disappointed.
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| Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:51 pm |
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MrGuinness
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Had no interest in seeing this til now... and I cant stand MMA either... However, this annoys me to no end....
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| Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:18 am |
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Vexer
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I've still got very little interest in seeing this film, here's a more negative review. http://themovieboy.com/reviews/w/11_warrior.htm
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| Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:31 pm |
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AJR
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Ahahaha
Oh Vexer. Never change.
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| Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:47 pm |
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Patrick
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This makes me wonder what Vexer's going to do if JB, Arrow and that Dustin guy ever agree on a movie?
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| Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:58 pm |
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Vexer
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Oh that's happened before actually, just not very often.
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| Sat Sep 03, 2011 5:15 pm |
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ilovemovies
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Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 1380
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I actually enjoy reading Dustin Putman's reviews but in this case, I'm definitely going to trust James over Dustin. Warrior looks fantastic to me.
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| Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:03 am |
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MrGuinness
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They both agreed to give Zombie vs Mardi Gras 0 stars. Not such a stretch though...
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| Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:22 pm |
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Vexer
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All 3 of thme also gave Crank a positive review.
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| Sun Sep 04, 2011 2:56 pm |
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ilovemovies
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Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 1380
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Didn't James though give Crank a very lukewarm, just barely positive review of 2.5 stars?
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| Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:15 pm |
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Vexer
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2.5 is stillsomewhat positive, just slightly less so then 3 stars is.
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| Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:40 pm |
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Shade
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It's a good thing there's not a "Guess Putman's Star Ratings" contest -- the thing would be way too easy. Just recently, he's praised Shark Night 3D, Apollo 18, Spy Kids 4, Final Destination 5, and Larry Crowne, while ripping to shreds Warrior, Attack the Block, Midnight in Paris, Fast Five...the guy is joke of a critic trying to be contrarian all the time. Not to mention that he might be the worst writer among moderately popular critics. Him hating Warrior is the least shocking event of the week. And Vex, I'm still not convinced that you aren't Putman himself.
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| Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:08 pm |
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ilovemovies
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Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:04 am Posts: 1380
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I don't often agree with Putman but I like reading his reviews. They are always well written. But I like reading everyone's opinions. Not just those that are similar to mine. I've disagreed many times with James but he's always been and still is one of my favorite critics. Putman's opinions are not unreasonable but then again, no opinion is unreasonable.
And I don't think he's being contrary for the sake of being contrary. He's no Armond White. He's agreed with the consensus many times. But he's got his mind too with his own opinions. And for the record, Final Destination 5 was pretty cool. And I LOVED Larry Crowne. Not just one of my favorite movies of the summer but of the year too.
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| Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:11 pm |
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Vexer
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 |  |  |  | Shade wrote: It's a good thing there's not a "Guess Putman's Star Ratings" contest -- the thing would be way too easy. Just recently, he's praised Shark Night 3D, Apollo 18, Spy Kids 4, Final Destination 5, and Larry Crowne, while ripping to shreds Warrior, Attack the Block, Midnight in Paris, Fast Five...the guy is joke of a critic trying to be contrarian all the time. Not to mention that he might be the worst writer among moderately popular critics. Him hating Warrior is the least shocking event of the week. And Vex, I'm still not convinced that you aren't Putman himself. |  |  |  |  |
I wish I was him! That lucky S.O.B got to see Hobo With A Shotgun and Super in theaters, I would've killed for that opportunity!  And he's not contrarian at all, don't know where the hell you got that from, and at least unlike Ebert, he always explains in detail WHY he likes or dosen't like a film, instead of going on for two paragraphs on something that's only tangibly related to the film.
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| Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:37 am |
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Shade
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Dude, you level that accusation at Ebert all the time and it's senseless...does every reviewer in the world need to go plot point-by-plot point to write a review? Ebert's a film critic and he criticizes film (which is not always a negative word). He essays based on the films he sees -- always has and always will. I could reference dozens of crappy Putman reviews, but let's stick with the Warrior one: he takes a few thousand words to say nothing. At all. It rubbed him the wrong way. Fair enough. He never goes deeper than that. You're always quick to point out, Vex, that your Asperger's affects how you view/enjoy films. That's certainly true because it's a part of you. With Ebert, he writes about what he thinks about a film through the filter of his life an experience. You'll notice that he rarely goes off on tangents with films he likes, because they kept his attention and his mind didn't wander off. You certainly don't have to agree with his thoughts or conclusions, but to say his reviews are bad because he went off on something that you think is only "tangibly" related to the film would exactly the same as me calling you wrong for liking Ballistic because I think it's mindless and pointless. Maybe we're not trying to get the same out of films, right? So don't rip Ebert for it. Don't worry, I'm kidding, you're way too good of a writer to be Dustin Putman.
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| Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:04 am |
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Vexer
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 |  |  |  | Shade wrote: Dude, you level that accusation at Ebert all the time and it's senseless...does every reviewer in the world need to go plot point-by-plot point to write a review? Ebert's a film critic and he criticizes film (which is not always a negative word). He essays based on the films he sees -- always has and always will. I could reference dozens of crappy Putman reviews, but let's stick with the Warrior one: he takes a few thousand words to say nothing. At all. It rubbed him the wrong way. Fair enough. He never goes deeper than that. You're always quick to point out, Vex, that your Asperger's affects how you view/enjoy films. That's certainly true because it's a part of you. With Ebert, he writes about what he thinks about a film through the filter of his life an experience. You'll notice that he rarely goes off on tangents with films he likes, because they kept his attention and his mind didn't wander off. You certainly don't have to agree with his thoughts or conclusions, but to say his reviews are bad because he went off on something that you think is only "tangibly" related to the film would exactly the same as me calling you wrong for liking Ballistic because I think it's mindless and pointless. Maybe we're not trying to get the same out of films, right? So don't rip Ebert for it. Don't worry, I'm kidding, you're way too good of a writer to be Dustin Putman. |  |  |  |  |
My criticism against Ebert is perfectly legitimate, another example is his review of Fight Club, he gave it 1 and a half stars, claiming it was a "celebration of violence in which the heroes write themselves a license to drink, smoke, screw and beat one another up" when Fight Club isn't glorifiying violence at all, in fact it's doing the complete opposite of what Ebert was saying, Ebert totally missed the entire point of the film because he didn't bother to look beneath the surface. I see nothing wrong with Dustin's Warrior review, he mostly hated the film because he didn't find the characters very unlikeable and thought the fights were dull and uninteresting, those sound like perfectly good reasons for not liking the film to me.
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