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Poll #4: The Wolverine download poll 

Did you download the work print of WOLVERINE?
Yes. I won't see it in a theater but wouldn't have anyway. 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Yes. I won't see it in a theater but might have if it hadn't been for the download 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes. I will still see it in the theater. 3%  3%  [ 2 ]
No. I have nothing against downloading, but it's a work print. 20%  20%  [ 14 ]
No. I don't mind the work print thing, but I don't download copyrighted movies. 10%  10%  [ 7 ]
No. I have problems with it being a work print and with downloading copyrighted movies. 17%  17%  [ 12 ]
No. No interest whatsoever. 49%  49%  [ 35 ]
Total votes : 71

Poll #4: The Wolverine download poll 
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Did you download Wolverine? If not, why not? And if so, will you still see it in theaters? Remember: all responses are completely anonymous, so no fears about being honest...


Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:44 pm
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I didn't download it for two reasons: Minimal interest in the movie, and no "necessity" to do so. If it's a movie I want to see, I like to watch it for the first time either in a theater, or the comforts of my home.

I think the one movie I've downloaded was the Wizard of Gore remake, as it wasn't available in any video stores in my country and I'm not quite willing to part with 20$ for something I might not even make through to the end (the buzz and pushbacks were discouraging); Another exception is the Supernatural series. I own the three available series on DVD, but the fourth season isn't aired where I'm from so I download the episodes as they´re shown in the USA and will purchase the season as it's released on DVD.

Your reelthoughts column pretty much sums up my thoughts on the matter; I don't need to see it now, and the only time I would give downloading a movie serious thought is if the release is bungled in my country (Sleepy Hollow took around nine months to get here).


Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:02 pm
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A couple reasons why I didn't:

1. I have not been wowed from what I seen.
2. Dial-up
3. It's a work print! If I'm going to steal, I'm stealing some high-quality things.


Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:20 pm
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no interest in the movie, nothing against downloading - but i might in the future see this because its a work print.
couldn't find that option so ticked the last. :)

as to why i wanna see a work print - only because the cgi is missing - and that's kinda my field. :)


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Tue Apr 14, 2009 10:32 pm
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Hi there

I'm not a fan of the series at all.
The work print thing is a double no for me

Why am i convinced that the studio saw the impact on Taken and seeded it themselves?

Rob


Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:49 pm
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I have nothing against downloading, but I don't have interest in watching this movie, at least not yet. I'll wait and rent the DVD when it comes out.


Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:21 am
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I cannot imagine how in this or any other parallel universes, multiverses, underverses, quasiverses, bibleverses...how an unfinished downloadable work print copy could affect the studios bottom line by one red cent...just don't see it happening.


Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:03 am
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Robert Holloway wrote:
Why am i convinced that the studio saw the impact on Taken and seeded it themselves?
Rob


The lack of an arrest makes this an increasingly credible proposition. Supposedly, all work prints are serial encoded with an "invisible" digital signature that cannot be removed without completely destroying the copy. All serial numbers are linked to an individual. So it should be child's play to pin down the responsible party. Since this has gotten so much publicity, one would assume that Fox and the FBI would want to make a spectacle out of the arrest. But more than a week has gone by, the story has lost its steam, and there's no arrest. This is more than just curious...

IMO, this is the kind of guerilla publicity that studios would be advised to use to promote movies. If the work print was leaked by Fox, it's a brilliant move, and perhaps a tacit acknowledgment on their part of the validity of the "if you can't beat them, join them" philosophy.


Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:23 am
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James Berardinelli wrote:
Robert Holloway wrote:
Why am i convinced that the studio saw the impact on Taken and seeded it themselves?
Rob


The lack of an arrest makes this an increasingly credible proposition. Supposedly, all work prints are serial encoded with an "invisible" digital signature that cannot be removed without completely destroying the copy. All serial numbers are linked to an individual. So it should be child's play to pin down the responsible party. Since this has gotten so much publicity, one would assume that Fox and the FBI would want to make a spectacle out of the arrest. But more than a week has gone by, the story has lost its steam, and there's no arrest. This is more than just curious...

IMO, this is the kind of guerilla publicity that studios would be advised to use to promote movies. If the work print was leaked by Fox, it's a brilliant move, and perhaps a tacit acknowledgment on their part of the validity of the "if you can't beat them, join them" philosophy.



100% agree though the idea of a studio admitting it is pretty unthinkable :-)
The reason i ma convinced is the follow up that it will be different in theaters, i mean, come on.....
Rob


Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:39 am
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Robert Holloway wrote:
James Berardinelli wrote:
Robert Holloway wrote:
Why am i convinced that the studio saw the impact on Taken and seeded it themselves?
Rob


The lack of an arrest makes this an increasingly credible proposition. Supposedly, all work prints are serial encoded with an "invisible" digital signature that cannot be removed without completely destroying the copy. All serial numbers are linked to an individual. So it should be child's play to pin down the responsible party. Since this has gotten so much publicity, one would assume that Fox and the FBI would want to make a spectacle out of the arrest. But more than a week has gone by, the story has lost its steam, and there's no arrest. This is more than just curious...

IMO, this is the kind of guerilla publicity that studios would be advised to use to promote movies. If the work print was leaked by Fox, it's a brilliant move, and perhaps a tacit acknowledgment on their part of the validity of the "if you can't beat them, join them" philosophy.



100% agree though the idea of a studio admitting it is pretty unthinkable :-)
The reason i ma convinced is the follow up that it will be different in theaters, i mean, come on.....
Rob


This raises some interesting legal questions (although I'm no specialist on U.S. copyright law): If a studio would release a workprint as a free download for the purpose of the marketing of a yet to be released movie, it could be argued that the film as such has been released into the public domain by the copyright holder. As a consequence, free downloading of the actual movie could possibly considered fair use or it could even be argued that the copyright is exhausted. Of course, it is debatable whether a workprint can be equated with the finished product, but if I were a studio, I wouldn't want to incur the legal costs of defending this argument.


Wed Apr 15, 2009 12:32 pm
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Hmmm, 19 votes in and no-one has admitted to downloading it...yet.

Locally, we have guys pushing carts filled with pirated DVDs and I saw they're already selling the film. I have zero interest in seeing the film in this format but I'm sure many people will buy a copy.


Wed Apr 15, 2009 1:52 pm
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I didn't download it. Mainly because X-Men 3 wasn't very good (my least fav so far) and I don't have that high of hopes for the movie. I'm hoping it surprises me, but if it ends up sucking I won't care as much this time. And I'd rather watch it in theaters, especially since it's a workprint.


Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:06 am
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If it was a work print of that Jerry Lewis Nazi clown movie, I'd download it. If the word-of-mouth for the Wolverine flick was "this century's Godfather Part II" I may have penned in a download.


Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:54 am
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I have a friend who downloaded it and brought it over on his laptop, but I didn't want to watch it or transfer it to my computer. I would say maybe 1/3 of the movies he watches he downloads illegally. I don't really have much of a problem with it, but then again I also don't mind sticking to the movies I can watch online on Netflix, can get for $5 in the WalMart bin, etc. There are enough really cheap movies out there that I just don't feel the need to get one for free. I don't know if that makes any sense but it's how I feel.

When I was in high school I downloaded a few movies I had never seen. It was a little different then since I didn't have any money of my own to buy or rent a lot of movies. Also I think I now own most of the movies I once had downloaded.


Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:45 am
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No; I don't download movies and especially didn't download this one.


Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:34 pm
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Zero interest.


Sun Apr 19, 2009 12:23 am
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i don't think i would've seen this movies in ANY other form other than a work print, because i had NO interest in it.

this way, it'll at least be funny to watch


Tue Apr 28, 2009 12:06 pm
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James:

I have a problem with it being a work print, and I have a problem with downloading movies.

Love your stuff.


Wed May 06, 2009 4:37 pm
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I download a ton of movies every year.. but I have absolutely no interest in X-Men.. so why would I be interested in one X-Man..

Besides, I always wait for high quality DVD-Rips.. or Region 5 DVD-Rips, at least. I never download any Workprints (I honestly didn't even know what a WP was until a couple of months ago) and I rarely download DVD Screeners.


Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:47 am
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I may watch the film on DVD.


Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:00 am
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