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Most under-rated movie of all time... 
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Post Most under-rated movie of all time...
Maybe not of all time, but of recent times, there is a gem that many people I know have not seen which is simply a masterpiece in my opinion, and that movie is:



Apocalypto - Mel Gibson


Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:15 am
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I don't know if Apocalypto is the most underrated movie of all time. However it is a very good movie. It wasn't a huge hit, but it did make $50 million in the USA so it wasn't completely under the radar.

I would nominate Sunshine. This was Danny Boyle's 2007 film made right before Slumdog. It was in my top 10 that year but almost no one saw it. It only made $3 million in the USA.


Wed Feb 25, 2009 10:31 am
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PAG wrote:
I don't know if Apocalypto is the most underrated movie of all time. However it is a very good movie. It wasn't a huge hit, but it did make $50 million in the USA so it wasn't completely under the radar.

I would nominate Sunshine. This was Danny Boyle's 2007 film made right before Slumdog. It was in my top 10 that year but almost no one saw it. It only made $3 million in the USA.


But 28 Million foreign. Huh, I had no idea (I wasnt a big fan).

Hows about Sexy Beast. Immenantly enjoyable, somewhat underseen. Or maybe Brick. Teen crime noir done very very well (sexy action cool).


Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:03 pm
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PAG wrote:
I don't know if Apocalypto is the most underrated movie of all time. However it is a very good movie. It wasn't a huge hit, but it did make $50 million in the USA so it wasn't completely under the radar.

I would nominate Sunshine. This was Danny Boyle's 2007 film made right before Slumdog. It was in my top 10 that year but almost no one saw it. It only made $3 million in the USA.



Agreed. It just surprised me that many of my friends, movie buffs like myself...hadn't even given it a chance. I also agree with you about Sunshine...great film.


Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:15 pm
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biz wrote:
PAG wrote:
I don't know if Apocalypto is the most underrated movie of all time. However it is a very good movie. It wasn't a huge hit, but it did make $50 million in the USA so it wasn't completely under the radar.

I would nominate Sunshine. This was Danny Boyle's 2007 film made right before Slumdog. It was in my top 10 that year but almost no one saw it. It only made $3 million in the USA.


But 28 Million foreign. Huh, I had no idea (I wasnt a big fan).

Hows about Sexy Beast. Immenantly enjoyable, somewhat underseen. Or maybe Brick. Teen crime noir done very very well (sexy action cool).



Haven't seen either so I'll have to look into that, thanks!


Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:17 pm
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Yes, Sunshine is a very very very underrated film. It is high on my list of favorite sci-fi movies. I think the reason it's underrated is the plot. The first time I heard it (the sun is dying so a group of astronauts have to go re-ignite it with a huge bomb), I thought this sounds like the stupidest thing ever. Images of The Core immediately filled my head. I wasn't that familiar with Danny Boyle and actually watched Sunshine to laugh out loud, but then upon watching it, I discovered it was awesome, unrelenting, thrilling, and just thought provoking; so now I recommend that film to everyone.

This has been mentioned before on another thread, but I think Munich is pretty underrated. A lot of people don't mention it when they discuss Spielberg, but it's a pretty kick-ass movie.

The Abyss: This has to be Cameron's most underrated film. I don't see why either because it was a technical marvel. Well actually I do. The theatrical version didn't make 100% sense, but the special edition added the wave sequence that turned this movie around. This is my second favorite movie by him after T2.

Kingdom of Heaven: Now I have to admit that the theatrical version left a lot to be desired, but the director's cut turned this film into an epic worthy of a best picture oscar.

Walk Hard: Most of my friends tell me how unfunny this is, but I am an avid music appreciator and seeing John C. Riley's interpretations of a multitude of different singers made me fall on the floor with laughter. A definite underrated comedy.

Casino: While not Goodfellas caliber, this film was mesmerizing, especially the way and tone in which it was filmed.

Hulk:: Ang Lee's interpretation of the character was a hell of a lot better than that movie last summer. I think a lot of people didn't appreciate it because Lee didn't approach the character from the comic book standpoint. He filmed a movie about a hulk that was tormented. A different yet involving approach.


Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:34 pm
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roastbeef_ajus wrote:
Yes, Sunshine is a very very very underrated film. It is high on my list of favorite sci-fi movies. I think the reason it's underrated is the plot. The first time I heard it (the sun is dying so a group of astronauts have to go re-ignite it with a huge bomb), I thought this sounds like the stupidest thing ever. Images of The Core immediately filled my head. I wasn't that familiar with Danny Boyle and actually watched Sunshine to laugh out loud, but then upon watching it, I discovered it was awesome, unrelenting, thrilling, and just thought provoking; so now I recommend that film to everyone.

This has been mentioned before on another thread, but I think Munich is pretty underrated. A lot of people don't mention it when they discuss Spielberg, but it's a pretty kick-ass movie.

The Abyss: This has to be Cameron's most underrated film. I don't see why either because it was a technical marvel. Well actually I do. The theatrical version didn't make 100% sense, but the special edition added the wave sequence that turned this movie around. This is my second favorite movie by him after T2.

Kingdom of Heaven: Now I have to admit that the theatrical version left a lot to be desired, but the director's cut turned this film into an epic worthy of a best picture oscar.

Walk Hard: Most of my friends tell me how unfunny this is, but I am an avid music appreciator and seeing John C. Riley's interpretations of a multitude of different singers made me fall on the floor with laughter. A definite underrated comedy.

Casino: While not Goodfellas caliber, this film was mesmerizing, especially the way and tone in which it was filmed.

Hulk:: Ang Lee's interpretation of the character was a hell of a lot better than that movie last summer. I think a lot of people didn't appreciate it because Lee didn't approach the character from the comic book standpoint. He filmed a movie about a hulk that was tormented. A different yet involving approach.



Couldn’t agree more on the Hulk. To this day I just don’t get how so many people disliked that movie. It was very, very well done.

The Abyss….EXCELLENT. Emotionally gripping with great sci-fi. A classic.

Munich….I have wanted to watch it since I saw the potheads waxing philosophic over it in “Knocked Up”. LOL.


Wed Feb 25, 2009 1:55 pm
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Here are some more really good movies from this decade (all made my top 10 in the year of their release) that didn't really find an audience at the theater (all made less than $25 million in the USA):

Requiem For A Dream (2000) - $3 million
The Pledge (2001) - $19
Narc (2002) - $10
Adaptation (2002) - $22
City Of God (2003) - $7
Lord Of War (2005) - $24
Match Point (2005) - $23
Into The Wild (2007) - $18
Gone Baby Gone (2007) - $20
Appaloosa (2008) - $20
The Ruins (2008) - $17


Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:11 pm
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PAG wrote:
Here are some more really good movies from this decade (all made my top 10 in the year of their release) that didn't really find an audience at the theater (all made less than $25 million in the USA):

Requiem For A Dream (2000) - $3 million
The Pledge (2001) - $19
Narc (2002) - $10
Adaptation (2002) - $22
City Of God (2003) - $7
Lord Of War (2005) - $24
Match Point (2005) - $23
Into The Wild (2007) - $18
Gone Baby Gone (2007) - $20
Appaloosa (2008) - $20
The Ruins (2008) - $17


But all but Lord of War, Gone Baby Gone and The Ruins were indy releases with only Appaloosa doing a wide expansion, so the box office here is irrelevant.


Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:40 pm
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Patrick wrote:
PAG wrote:
Here are some more really good movies from this decade (all made my top 10 in the year of their release) that didn't really find an audience at the theater (all made less than $25 million in the USA):

Requiem For A Dream (2000) - $3 million
The Pledge (2001) - $19
Narc (2002) - $10
Adaptation (2002) - $22
City Of God (2003) - $7
Lord Of War (2005) - $24
Match Point (2005) - $23
Into The Wild (2007) - $18
Gone Baby Gone (2007) - $20
Appaloosa (2008) - $20
The Ruins (2008) - $17



But all but Lord of War, Gone Baby Gone and The Ruins were indy releases with only Appaloosa doing a wide expansion, so the box office here is irrelevant.


The only movies on that list that really didn't get a least a semi wide release (over 500 theaters) was Requiem For A Dream and City Of God. I saw all the rest in mainstream theater chains (AMC, Marcus or Rave) in a midwest city (Columbus, Ohio) not art house theaters. Plus, most of the rest have pretty big names in the cast or as director. The point of my list wasn't to pick obscure titles but to pick movies that the average American had a chance to see in an average chain theater.


Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:20 pm
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PAG, I don't understand why you are equating underrated with box office returns. What does one have to do with the other? Most of the films on your list were very well-received, critically.


Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:48 am
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Matchstick Men


Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:51 am
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The criteria for what is 'underrated' is difficult to develop so here goes nothing:

'The New World' (2005) - An absolutely beautiful film that failed at the box office. Really looking forward to Terrence Malick's 'The Tree of Life' later this year.

'Bowfinger' (1999) - My favourite Eddie Murphy and Steve Martin film. Hilarious script with many not so veiled stabs at Scientology. Has an imdb rating of 6.3/10 :shock:

'Miami Vice' (2006) - Not perfect, but overall a very good gritty crime drama. Added points for a wonderful soundtrack (particularly the use of Mogwai's 'Auto Rock' at the end of the movie). A rating of 6.0/10 on imdb doesn't do this Michael Mann film justice. I think people were expecting the 80's Miami Vice and were disappointed.

'The Village' (2004) - I loved the twist at the end. I think Shyamalan is deluded about his "greatness" but I think he has ability.

'Robin Hood: Men in Tights' (1993) - One of my favourite Mel Brooks films, I love this just as much as Blazing Saddles. It's the enunciation of the dialogue that gets me every time I watch it. Cary Elwes is by far the best Robin Hood since Errol Flynn.


Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:02 pm
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I'll go one further - underrated films by directors with disproportionately overrated films under thier bloated belts.


Greg Araki: Mysterious Skin (2004) - Take your pick; 'Nowhere' and 'Doom Generation' all have their zombie-like adherents.
Steven Soderbergh: Out Of Sight (1998) - The Sundance enabling overrated 'classic' Sex, Lies And Videotape, or the over-long and uneven Traffic. Out Of Sight is much more tightly constructed than either.
Zhang Yimou: Raise The Red Lantern (1991) - The overrated 'Hero' from 2002, which officially made Yimou look derivative of Ang Lee, whereas the opposite could be reasonably claimed. As for Ang...
Ang Lee: The Ice Storm (1997) - People say Brokeback Mountain is overrated (I kindly disagree by a few points), but Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon has finally started to earn it's bummed-out status at the tail-end of the imdb top 250 - this might be the 2000's most overrated film.
Mike Nichols: Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? (1966) - The Graduate, which has aged horribly in comparison and is slowly being discovered for it's shallow and uneven idealogical standpoint (pointed out best by Roger Ebert).


Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:16 pm
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MunichMan wrote:
PAG, I don't understand why you are equating underrated with box office returns. What does one have to do with the other? Most of the films on your list were very well-received, critically.


Fair point. Maybe my list is more good mainstream movies that underperformed at the box office.


Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:44 pm
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PAG wrote:
...
Match Point (2005) - $23
Into The Wild (2007) - $18
...



I totally agree with Into The Wild, which is one of the best movies i've seen in recent years. But i think Match Point got just appraisal and success it deserved. I'm a huge woody allen fan, and i liked match point, but i don't think these movies should be HUGE undeservedly. it got what it deserved.

But such a shame about Into The Wild... Time will single it out as a unappreciated classic.

I'd like to submit to your attention the a remake:

The Front Page - Billy Wilder, with Lemmon and Matthau. I personally loved this movie. Funny, enticing, and quite sharp. There are some really electrical moments, where you really feel the journalistic rush of the SCOOP. Did i mention it was funny as hell? But it's largely forgotten or bad-mouthed by critics, and for the love of me i can't understand why... BRING THIS MOVIE BACK.

AND LOVE IT!


Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:00 pm
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I think Saw's fairly underrated. People poop on it all the time, but the first one's quite enjoyable. It's got gore, plot twists, Danny Glover (who went to my school!), and one of the coolest DVD cases ever. Mmmm.


Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:59 am
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Plan 9 From Outer Space

I love this little movie and am fed up of it being ripped to pieces. I'm serious.

Here was a director struggling against the odds to develop a movie. Sure it's got problems, but there's genius in there. I've seen it several times. It's charming, funny and totally entertaining.

There's a reason Tim Burton and Johnny Depp made that movie.

Rob


Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:43 am
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Pedro wrote:
I think Saw's fairly underrated. People poop on it all the time, but the first one's quite enjoyable. It's got gore, plot twists, Danny Glover (who went to my school!), and one of the coolest DVD cases ever. Mmmm.


Saw's on my Top 40 but when I revealed, holy shit the flack I got from it.


Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:39 am
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Pedro wrote:
I think Saw's fairly underrated. People poop on it all the time, but the first one's quite enjoyable. It's got gore, plot twists, Danny Glover (who went to my school!), and one of the coolest DVD cases ever. Mmmm.



Feast is underrated. Retarded fun to the max. I just find Saw insulting... Really dislike the first, and from there on out, well, you can imagine if i don't even LIKE the first.


Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:40 pm
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