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JamesKunz wrote:
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I REALLY don
t get the hatred for Licence To Kill, peronally i'll watch it over Casino Royale ANY day of the week,


Alright we're no longer on speaking terms
Yeah whatever, like I REALLY care :lol: :roll:


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After getting back from Korea back in 2003, my (then) wife, who knew how much I love James Bonds films, got me Die Another Day. Unfortunately, I never told her I had seen it while overseas or told her how much I hated it. Oops. Worst Bond film ever, with the possible exception of Diamonds Are Forever.

You thought both of those films were worse than License to Kill or A View to a Kill? Oh dear, oh dear....


DAF had a lead who was 40 years past his prime, the single worst Bond girl until Denise Richards came along, a dumb plot about cloning Blofeld played by an actor who had died in YOLT, Jimmy Dean pretending to be an actor before whoring himself as a sausage maker and the fact Sean Connery looked way too old to be playing Bond. (Did I mention that?)

DAD has the worst theme song ever in the series, performed by Madonna, who did her best tree impersonation as a fencing instrcutor, a North Korean who magically tranformed himself into a stodgy Englishman who couldn't sleep, who owned an ice palace in Iceland, an unlikely place to be able to keep an ice palace, a car that was invisible (or was covered in mirrors - whatthehellever), but no one noticed the visible car tracks it was leaving behind in the snow and ice, and the worst special effects seen in a movie since Catwoman, probably because they were both done by the same fourth grade class. The paragliding sequence? JesusAlmighty, that was shit. The only redeeming qualities of DAD were Halle Berry in an orange bikini and the opening sequence, which used North Korea as a viable enemy, which they are.

AVTAK is only slightly higher than these two as the worst IMO. Roger Moore, like Sean Connery in DAF, was way too old to be playing spy here and looks it. Tanya "Sheena" Roberts was awful, but I'm happy when Christopher Walken shows up in anything, even though there's not much for him to do with his character excpet play grabass with Grace Jones, who I like, for what that's worth. Great theme song, though.

I tend to give the two Timothy Dalton Bond films some leeway as I never thought he got a fair shake; the audience was so used to Moore's over-the-top tongue in cheek humor, they couldn't get used to Dalton's less humorous Bond.

To review, the worst Bond films are:
1. Die Another Day
2. Diamonds Are Forever
3. A View to A Kill

ETA: Wherer would you put DAD on your list of Bond films? Top, middle, utter shit?


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DylnFan96818 wrote:
Ragnarok73 wrote:
You thought both of those films were worse than License to Kill or A View to a Kill? Oh dear, oh dear....


DAF had a lead who was 40 years past his prime, the single worst Bond girl until Denise Richards came along, a dumb plot about cloning Blofeld played by an actor who had died in YOLT, Jimmy Dean pretending to be an actor before whoring himself as a sausage maker and the fact Sean Connery looked way too old to be playing Bond. (Did I mention that?)

DAD has the worst theme song ever in the series, performed by Madonna, who did her best tree impersonation as a fencing instrcutor, a North Korean who magically tranformed himself into a stodgy Englishman who couldn't sleep, who owned an ice palace in Iceland, an unlikely place to be able to keep an ice palace, a car that was invisible (or was covered in mirrors - whatthehellever), but no one noticed the visible car tracks it was leaving behind in the snow and ice, and the worst special effects seen in a movie since Catwoman, probably because they were both done by the same fourth grade class. The paragliding sequence? JesusAlmighty, that was shit. The only redeeming qualities of DAD were Halle Berry in an orange bikini and the opening sequence, which used North Korea as a viable enemy, which they are.

AVTAK is only slightly higher than these two as the worst IMO. Roger Moore, like Sean Connery in DAF, was way too old to be playing spy here and looks it. Tanya "Sheena" Roberts was awful, but I'm happy when Christopher Walken shows up in anything, even though there's not much for him to do with his character excpet play grabass with Grace Jones, who I like, for what that's worth. Great theme song, though.

I tend to give the two Timothy Dalton Bond films some leeway as I never thought he got a fair shake; the audience was so used to Moore's over-the-top tongue in cheek humor, they couldn't get used to Dalton's less humorous Bond.

To review, the worst Bond films are:
1. Die Another Day
2. Diamonds Are Forever
3. A View to A Kill

ETA: Wherer would you put DAD on your list of Bond films? Top, middle, utter shit?

DAD is on the upper tier of my "utter shit" pile where Bond films is concerned. For the record: I didn't hate the Dalton films because of Dalton- I hated them because their plots were ridiculous. I also feel that Dalton was a victim of poor timing, as the Fleming material was mostly used up by the time he became Mr. Bond.


Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:01 pm
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I personally find that everything about Licence To Kill was in its proper place. It could have been a top-of-the-line Bond thriller. It was just waiting for an exciting, coherent story that never came along.

Had Casino Royale not had such a clear sense of purpose, it would have been very similar to LtK.

Ragnarok73 wrote:
For the record: I didn't hate the Dalton films because of Dalton- I hated them because their plots were ridiculous. I also feel that Dalton was a victim of poor timing, as the Fleming material was mostly used up by the time he became Mr. Bond.
And much of the Fleming material had been cannibalized into screenplays that were vastly worse off than they would have been in more direct adaptations. A sad waste.

I think Live and Let Die is the first Bond book I ever read, and it's pretty good. The movie is probably my pick for worst Bond film.


Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:06 pm
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I personally find that everything about Licence To Kill was in its proper place. It could have been a top-of-the-line Bond thriller. It was just waiting for an exciting, coherent story that never came along.

Had Casino Royale not had such a clear sense of purpose, it would have been very similar to LtK.

Ragnarok73 wrote:
For the record: I didn't hate the Dalton films because of Dalton- I hated them because their plots were ridiculous. I also feel that Dalton was a victim of poor timing, as the Fleming material was mostly used up by the time he became Mr. Bond.
And much of the Fleming material had been cannibalized into screenplays that were vastly worse off than they would have been in more direct adaptations. A sad waste.

I think Live and Let Die is the first Bond book I ever read, and it's pretty good. The movie is probably my pick for worst Bond film.

My pick for absolute worst Bond film is The Spy Who Loved Me, as it does worse than just poorly adapting a Fleming work. It was a completely contrived pile of crap, because Fleming forbade the adaptation of that work into film. It was a classic case of "completely made up crap on the spot which only shares the name with the original work". Ugh.


Mon Mar 15, 2010 3:57 pm
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Ragnarok73 wrote:
Ken wrote:
I personally find that everything about Licence To Kill was in its proper place. It could have been a top-of-the-line Bond thriller. It was just waiting for an exciting, coherent story that never came along.

Had Casino Royale not had such a clear sense of purpose, it would have been very similar to LtK.

Ragnarok73 wrote:
For the record: I didn't hate the Dalton films because of Dalton- I hated them because their plots were ridiculous. I also feel that Dalton was a victim of poor timing, as the Fleming material was mostly used up by the time he became Mr. Bond.
And much of the Fleming material had been cannibalized into screenplays that were vastly worse off than they would have been in more direct adaptations. A sad waste.

I think Live and Let Die is the first Bond book I ever read, and it's pretty good. The movie is probably my pick for worst Bond film.

My pick for absolute worst Bond film is The Spy Who Loved Me, as it does worse than just poorly adapting a Fleming work. It was a completely contrived pile of crap, because Fleming forbade the adaptation of that work into film. It was a classic case of "completely made up crap on the spot which only shares the name with the original work". Ugh.


I know we disagree on everything and have our difficulties together....but I totally hate The Spy Who Loved Me and I mean hate! The second worst Bond movie I've seen was Diamonds and that made me greatly dislike it....or did we already agree on this at MGames Bond retrospective thread?


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Ragnarok73 wrote:
My pick for absolute worst Bond film is The Spy Who Loved Me, as it does worse than just poorly adapting a Fleming work. It was a completely contrived pile of crap, because Fleming forbade the adaptation of that work into film. It was a classic case of "completely made up crap on the spot which only shares the name with the original work". Ugh.


I think we're kinda forgetting that actually adapting the novel "The Spy Who Loved Me" would be a stupid proposition since it, you know, sucks and has little to do with James Bond

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JamesKunz wrote:
Ragnarok73 wrote:
My pick for absolute worst Bond film is The Spy Who Loved Me, as it does worse than just poorly adapting a Fleming work. It was a completely contrived pile of crap, because Fleming forbade the adaptation of that work into film. It was a classic case of "completely made up crap on the spot which only shares the name with the original work". Ugh.


I think we're kinda forgetting that actually adapting the novel "The Spy Who Loved Me" would be a stupid proposition since it, you know, sucks and has little to do with James Bond

The novel did include Bond, though not for the entire length, as the main protagonist was the woman he boinks. It was a different perspective from just about all of Fleming's other Bond books, and it wasn't the most popular. That still doesn't excuse the absolute crapfest that the producers made of the film "adaptation".


Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:45 pm
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Patrick wrote:
I know we disagree on everything and have our difficulties together....but I totally hate The Spy Who Loved Me and I mean hate! The second worst Bond movie I've seen was Diamonds and that made me greatly dislike it....or did we already agree on this at MGames Bond retrospective thread?

I doubt that we'd agree on Diamonds Are Forever as I'd rate any of Connery's Bond films (with the lone exception of Never Say Never Again) above just about all of Moore's or Dalton's films, not to mention all of Brosnan's films aside from Goldeneye.


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Ken wrote:
I personally find that everything about Licence To Kill was in its proper place. It could have been a top-of-the-line Bond thriller. It was just waiting for an exciting, coherent story that never came along.

Had Casino Royale not had such a clear sense of purpose, it would have been very similar to LtK.

Ragnarok73 wrote:
For the record: I didn't hate the Dalton films because of Dalton- I hated them because their plots were ridiculous. I also feel that Dalton was a victim of poor timing, as the Fleming material was mostly used up by the time he became Mr. Bond.
And much of the Fleming material had been cannibalized into screenplays that were vastly worse off than they would have been in more direct adaptations. A sad waste.

I think Live and Let Die is the first Bond book I ever read, and it's pretty good. The movie is probably my pick for worst Bond film.


LaLD is pretty bad. Whaddya mean you can pick out the uppity British white guy in Harlem? Yaphaet Koytto in bad make-up and the 7-Up commercial guy? Fantastic.


Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:52 pm
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The James Bond Box I received from my parents-in-law was certainly not the worst film-related present I ever received as such, but it included, of course, some real stinkers like Die another Day or Octopussy.

I can't believe that in all of the discussion on the worst Bond movies, nobody has mentioned Octopussy yet. See James Bond swinging on a vine doing a Tarzan yell! Witness James Bond in a gorilla suit! Watch Roger Moore in a clown costume (well, that was at least somewhat fitting)! If Die another Day hadn't eventually lowered the bar with an invisible car and a crappy CGI tidal wave, Octopussy would have been the definitive worst Bond movie of all time.


Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:27 am
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In what will probably be a feeble attempt to steer the conversation away from James Band to on topic-ness, I think the worst movie I received as a gift was I Robot. I still have it, too. I'm keeping it mostly because it shows off how good Blu-ray can look. It's not a bad movie or anything.


Tue Mar 16, 2010 1:25 pm
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Pedro wrote:
In what will probably be a feeble attempt to steer the conversation away from James Band to on topic-ness, I think the worst movie I received as a gift was I Robot. I still have it, too. I'm keeping it mostly because it shows off how good Blu-ray can look. It's not a bad movie or anything.

Hmm, it almost sounds like you think that I, Robot was the "worst of the best" or something like that.

On a completely unrelated note (and to prove you right, Pedro): The reason I don't mention any of Moore's Bond films specifically is that I feel that ALL of them were at best mediocre and at worst plain stinking awful. Octopussy had its cheesy moments, but so did AVTAK and others like Moonraker.


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I wouldn't say it's the worst and the same people who gave it to me gave me Sin City two Christmases prior so that more than makes up for it. But I'd say 300. No, I don't think 300 is a bad movie. It's an entertaining graphic novel adaptation. But it's one movie I very rarely feel the desire to put back into the DVD player (unlike Sin City, which I watch again and again).

Worst Bond movie ever? Moonraker, no question. That one and Man WIth The Golden Gun.

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I like ALL of the Bond movies I've seen. Although I've only seen like half of them.


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How To Lose a Guy in 10 Days- not only did my ex-girlfriend make me go see this in theatres, she also bought this for me for Christmas. I've watched it one time since and it was with her, it kinda worked out though as it was one of those let's "watch a movie" nights that gals use an excuse to get guys into bed without feeling cheap....I love those nights. Anyway, she's gone (THANK GOD) but the movie remains in my collection.....


God, I saw that on my own initiative and I still haven't forgiven myself or Kate Hudson. I used to confuse it with "Ten Things I Hate about You," which has Julia Stiles and is a delight.

I suspect the worst movie I've ever been given as a gift is The Double-D Avenger but I haven't had the courage to verify this. The same friend gave me Random Harvest after we came across the second half on TV and I made fun of the preposterousness of the plot. I finally did watch the first half and discovered that the whole thing is preposterous. Carol Burnett had a lot of fun with that one.

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The James Bond Box I received from my parents-in-law was certainly not the worst film-related present I ever received as such, but it included, of course, some real stinkers like Die another Day or Octopussy.

I can't believe that in all of the discussion on the worst Bond movies, nobody has mentioned Octopussy yet. See James Bond swinging on a vine doing a Tarzan yell! Witness James Bond in a gorilla suit! Watch Roger Moore in a clown costume (well, that was at least somewhat fitting)! If Die another Day hadn't eventually lowered the bar with an invisible car and a crappy CGI tidal wave, Octopussy would have been the definitive worst Bond movie of all time.


Octopussy is definitely the pits. Didn't like For Your Eyes Only either except for Sheena Easton's theme song.

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Unke wrote:
The James Bond Box I received from my parents-in-law was certainly not the worst film-related present I ever received as such, but it included, of course, some real stinkers like Die another Day or Octopussy.

I can't believe that in all of the discussion on the worst Bond movies, nobody has mentioned Octopussy yet. See James Bond swinging on a vine doing a Tarzan yell! Witness James Bond in a gorilla suit! Watch Roger Moore in a clown costume (well, that was at least somewhat fitting)! If Die another Day hadn't eventually lowered the bar with an invisible car and a crappy CGI tidal wave, Octopussy would have been the definitive worst Bond movie of all time.


Octopussy is definitely the pits. Didn't like For Your Eyes Only either except for Sheena Easton's theme song.


Nobody? Nobody likes Octopussy? It's such a ridiculous movie! I think it's plenty entertaining, maybe not "vintage" but certainly good enough for a lazy weekend. One of Moore's better "so this is the movie I'm in? Fine. Fine. Whatever." performances.


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Syd Henderson wrote:
Unke wrote:
The James Bond Box I received from my parents-in-law was certainly not the worst film-related present I ever received as such, but it included, of course, some real stinkers like Die another Day or Octopussy.

I can't believe that in all of the discussion on the worst Bond movies, nobody has mentioned Octopussy yet. See James Bond swinging on a vine doing a Tarzan yell! Witness James Bond in a gorilla suit! Watch Roger Moore in a clown costume (well, that was at least somewhat fitting)! If Die another Day hadn't eventually lowered the bar with an invisible car and a crappy CGI tidal wave, Octopussy would have been the definitive worst Bond movie of all time.


Octopussy is definitely the pits. Didn't like For Your Eyes Only either except for Sheena Easton's theme song.


Nobody? Nobody likes Octopussy? It's such a ridiculous movie! I think it's plenty entertaining, maybe not "vintage" but certainly good enough for a lazy weekend. One of Moore's better "so this is the movie I'm in? Fine. Fine. Whatever." performances.


As cheesy as Octopussy was, it had its exciting scenes and Moore was pretty charming. The film a Hell of alot going for it than the film that came after it.


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Holy shite... you guys!

Clearly, I mean OBVIOUSLY, my taste in Bond is totally horrible. I like both A View To Kill (WALKEN!) and The Spy Who Loved Me. This might be because I genuinely like the Moore-era cheese.

In fact...

not saying this to be controversial or troll-ish...

I think Moore-era bond is nearly 100% good. Not great! Good, though. I even like the totally awful Moonraker.

(1) Nobody who considers his or herself a "film fan" dislikes Bond movies. Impossible.

(2) If you don't see the joy in A View To Kill and The Spy Who Loved Me[b/] than you need to see more movies.

(3) Everyone who said [b]License To Kill
was bad is wrong. Everyone who said License To Kill is good is, somehow, wrong. Arguably the greatest idea behind any Bond. Yes.

(4) I still haven't seen Casino Royale! No no... I've seen the spoof. But the Craig one? Haven't seen it. Haven't seen any Craig-era (is this term even legit?) Bond.

(5) My favorite Bond is either Dr. No or From Russia With Love. Especially the scene in the elevator. And I just saw From Russia With Love for the first time, even. I bet you'd be pretty thrilled to be see that movie for the first time. I got to. HA!


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