Is that meant for me? Because, as I said, I watched it last week. I just didn't like it so it isn't on my list

Yours is a fun idea, but please start your own post in the forum for it since this one has a specific purpose

As a side note I think that your definition of great and favorite is kind of dumb. If you can't give one of your favorite movies more than 3 stars how is it one of your favorite movies? So what it might not be Citizen Kane, if you like it more, isn't it the better film to you? But these are just my opinions.

My list is seriously flawed in the fact that I don't get to go to the theaters very often so I haven't seen many of the great summer movies of 2009, particularly Inglourious Basterds. I also have yet to see many of the 00's classics, but here we go.

10. Memento
9. No Country For Old Men
8. Wedding Crashers
7. Mission Impossible II
6. Munich
5. Collateral
4. The Dark Knight
3. The Departed
2. Lord of the Rings Trilogy
1. Gladiator

-John Hurt is my favorite actor. I love watching him. But do I think he's the best actor of all time? No.
-Watership Down is my favorite novel. It means so much to me, and I think it's very, very good. But not the best of all time
-Spaghetti Bolognese is my favorite food. Should I assume that makes it "the best food of all time?"
-Jethro Tull is my favorite band. Their music really appeals to me. But I don't think they're the greatest band of all time.
-Zulu is my favorite movie. I used to watch it every time I was sick and stayed home from school. As I grew older my appreciation for it only deepened. Why does that make it the best movie of all time? Despite the myriad parts I love, it has a slow first half and one character is underdeveloped in a way that hurts the film. I'd give it 3.5 stars.


Does none of this make sense? It's not like this is some weird point I'm making--most people aren't arrogant enough to assume that something is great simply because they themselves like it. Notice that several of the Honorable Mentions in Berardinelli's Top 100 that were initially in the list before getting bumped out are 3.5 star movies, while he has plenty of 4 star films that sit below them.

I want to make it clear that there is no purely "objective" way to assess films: everyone's taste affects the way they look at a work of art. However, favorite means "thing regarded with special favor or preference," and best means "of the highest quality, excellence, or standing." They ain't synonyms.

If I remember correctly, JJoshay did post this seperately. I think one of the administrators may have merged it with this thread.

That was meant for Pedro, because I watched it last night.

Sorry for not starting my own forum, I pressed the "New Topic" button thinking it would just make a new one but I was wrong, I'll change it.

I understand the difference. Some of my favorite movies include 50 First Dates (2004), Hellraiser (1987), Return to Oz (1985), Moulin Rouge! (2001), Ocean's Eleven (2001) and Mean Girls (2004), but in making a list of the best of the decade, 50 First Dates and Mean Girls were not on it because there are those that are better. Citizen Kane (1941) is admittedly one of the great movies ever made (if not a little aged) but it is not one of my favorite movies. The Godfather Part III (1990) is in my opinion a very good movie but issues with the story and Sofia Coppola's performance were great detractors from making it the masterpiece the first two films were.

Thank God someone understands.

This was a topic of some debate here.

Without being obnoxious, I cannot understand how there's any debate on this whatsoever. How can people not understand that I enjoy watching Star Wars more than Empire Strikes Back because the former is more upbeat and fun, yet think Empire is a much richer, rewarding, and better film? Christ almighty.

Right-o, I caught a Philip gaffe. The Sea Inside was directed by Alejandro Amenábar, not Pedro Almodovar.



I know this is more or less dead, but I never said that he chose the "right" name. I was just pointing out that he was following a system and he remained consistent throughout. Perhaps, rather than being "ostentatious" Judah was just plain old lazy and copied the names straight from imdb.

I was actually under the impression that the film in question was 'Bad Education'. My bad, my bad. I maintain that 'Bad Education' is the worst film of Almodovar's '00s canon, by far.


However, that is still a relatively poor top pick for a list in my opinion, regardless of how powerful Amenábar's film was ().

I'm not arrogant enough to assume that something is great simply because I like it. There really isn't a way to say which film is the best, for me if I like a film better than another film than it is the better one to me. And my ratings depend on how much i like it, not anything else. if I don't like a movie, then it's not a good movie in my opinion. My 3rd favorite movie is Die Hard, which I liked more than Citizen Kane, so in my definition of what makes a movie good Die Hard is the better movie.

Alright since it seems that everyone who was going to submit a Top 10 has done so, here are the results:
Again, the scale was 14 points for a first place vote, 9 for a second, 8 for a third, 7 for a fourth, and so on down the line until tenth which gets 1 point. If people put multiple movies in the same place I divided the point value of the position by the number of movies. That is to say, if "LOTR Trilogy" was listed in second place, each film got 3 points.

1. Memento (2000): 62 points
2. City of God (2002): 50 points
3. The Dark Knight (2008): 49 points and 1 first place
4. Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (2003): 49 points and 0 first place
5. Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring (2001): 47 points
6. No Country for Old Men (2007): 46 points
7. Almost Famous (2000): 44 points
8. The Departed (2006): 34 points
9. Lost in Translation (2001): 34 points
10. Mulholland Dr. (2001): 32 points

Why 14 points for the top spot?

The Sight & Sound poll just counts all films equally:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/top ... -long.html

Yeah but what's the point of ranking them in order if you're going to discount that?



The theory being that being considered the best should give you an additional bump in the standings, so that one 2nd and one ninth isn't the same as a first. I took the scale from the Baseball MVP voting, and find it interesting

I find it slightly depressing that only two of my top 10 made it into the collated list. I guess people don't love Eternal Sunshine after all.

Fun thread though. A big thank you to James K. for taking the time to collate the lists.

Looks like I missed the deadline, but I guess there's no harm in posting more for the sake of shits 'n' giggles.

In order of release date and the ABCs, with the proviso that I didn't treat this list nearly as rigorously as I'm treating my forthcoming "Top 10 of All Time" list:

Lost In Translation (2001)
Adaptation. (2002)
Solaris (2002)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
Grizzly Man (2005)
Superman Returns (2006)
No Country for Old Men (2007)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
The Visitor (2008)
WALL-E (2008)
Inglourious Basterds (2009)

Some honorable mentions, but by no means all of them:

Memento
Superman II: The Richard Donner Cut (despite certain convictions, I rule this ultimately as an early '80s film)
Traffic
The Pianist
Capote
World Trade Center

I know you're a Superman fan, but this still really surprised me. I thought the film was decent, but nowhere as good as the original Superman film. How do you feel about the studio wanting to do another movie and making it "dark" ala Batman? Sounds like a dreadful idea to me.