Discussion of movies and ReelThoughts topics
|
It is currently Sat May 18, 2013 3:22 pm
|
View unanswered posts | View active topics
|
Page 1 of 1
|
[ 18 posts ] |
|
THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
| Author |
Message |
|
James Berardinelli
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 pm Posts: 2771 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ, USA
|
 THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
|
| Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:29 pm |
|
 |
|
Syd Henderson
Director
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:35 am Posts: 1450
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
You don't really have to go to Busby Berkeley to get to great screen musicals. The Love Parade was released later in 1929 and is terrific. The Academy Award calendar was different in those days, so it was up for Best Picture the next year and lost to All Quiet on the Western Front.
For those first few years, though, directors were feeling their way around trying to come up with ways to make musical films, and their solutions are interesting historically. Another nominee from 1929, The Hollywood Revue of 1929 is essential a vaudeville revue, a genre which was popular for a few years. Broadway Melody was better than that, at least. (My favorite of the revue films is The King of Jazz with its wonderfully inventive and bizarre sets and camera tricks.)
I hope your criticism of bad acting doesn't extend to Bessie Love and Anita Page, who are pretty good. Charles King and much of the supporting cast, on the other hand...
_________________ Evil does not wear a bonnet!--Mr. Tinkles
|
| Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:26 pm |
|
 |
|
Patrick
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
Where's Sunrise?
|
| Sun Nov 01, 2009 5:17 pm |
|
 |
|
James Berardinelli
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 pm Posts: 2771 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ, USA
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
Bessie Love is quite good. Can't say the same about Anita Page, at least in this film. This is far from her best work.
|
| Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:03 pm |
|
 |
|
James Berardinelli
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 pm Posts: 2771 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ, USA
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
I'm not going strictly in order. SUNRISE is next.
|
| Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:04 pm |
|
 |
|
JamesKunz
Critic
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:35 am Posts: 5842 Location: Easton, MD
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
I'm glad this one's on DVD, even though I have no interest in watching it. It just seems more fitting to have Video Views for films that are available to watch at home.
_________________ I'm lithe and fierce as a tiger
|
| Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:46 pm |
|
 |
|
ed_metal_head
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
Interesting thoughts. We're a bit stacked in favour of newer films here, so it's always nice to find someone with knowledge of the classics.
|
| Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:51 pm |
|
 |
|
JamesKunz
Critic
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:35 am Posts: 5842 Location: Easton, MD
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
Just because they're old doesn't make them classics...
_________________ I'm lithe and fierce as a tiger
|
| Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:54 pm |
|
 |
|
ed_metal_head
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
A fair point, with which I concur. However, a few of the films he originally mentioned are now considered to be classics.
|
| Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:58 pm |
|
 |
|
JamesKunz
Critic
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:35 am Posts: 5842 Location: Easton, MD
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
I will concede that All Quiet on the Western Front is a legitimate classic. Have you seen it recently? The battle sequences hold up incredibly well to this day.
_________________ I'm lithe and fierce as a tiger
|
| Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:56 pm |
|
 |
|
Syd Henderson
Director
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:35 am Posts: 1450
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
I watched it for the first time last night in anticipation of James's review in a week or two. Agreed, it is a classic, and the long battle sequence starting about forty minutes in is one of the best ever filmed. Powerful film. I'll wait till James gets to it before saying more.
_________________ Evil does not wear a bonnet!--Mr. Tinkles
|
| Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:10 pm |
|
 |
|
Syd Henderson
Director
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2009 1:35 am Posts: 1450
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
Broadway Melody and the films that actually were up against it being good examples. Although the Patriot hasn't survived except for a few clips, so I don't know what we're missing there.
_________________ Evil does not wear a bonnet!--Mr. Tinkles
|
| Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:16 pm |
|
 |
|
forwonder
Gaffer
Joined: Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:48 pm Posts: 24
|
 Please compare them with modern films
Thanks James, for doing this series. It should be a very interesting read. I hope you will review these older films without considerations to their age and compare them with modern films. A nice historical background to important films are welcomed and appreciated, but I think most films fans only want to know one thing. Is this film good entertainment for my time and money?
I find nearly all movie critics are overly lenient on "classic" films. In older "classic" films, I think most film critics tend to overvalue historical importance, forgotten famous stars, and non-traditional storytelling. It can be a little disheartening reading "classic" film reviews sometimes, because they never recieve bad reviews, even though when they were originally released there were some or many bad reviews.
Recently I saw "Double Indemnity" on netflix, a movie that I have read glowing reviews at Ebert's site and others, but it disappointed me. After the movie, I read an original release review by a NYTimes critic from a link on Netflix. It was a mixed review, and I agreed with it. I doubt a modern NYTimes film critic would give it a mixed or negative review.
|
| Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:09 am |
|
 |
|
JamesKunz
Critic
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:35 am Posts: 5842 Location: Easton, MD
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
I agree with you Forwonder that people are sometimes too lenient on movies from the past (though I happen to find Double Indemnity very good) because of their "classic" status. Hence my comment on "just cause they're old..." Just for fun, here are 4 older movies that are assuredly not classics...
The Godfather Part II: Is it a good movie? Absolutely. Professionally made and with some interesting scenes. But so redundant. The Michael-turning-evil plot was finished in the end of the first Godfather. The rise-of-Vito plot just salvages parts of Puzo's book that they left out, and feels at right angles to the modern plot. Plus we get to hear DeNiro doing a bad Brando impression. Basically the whole movie is an incredibly overlong 200 minutes we didn't need in the first place. Ebert and the New York Times felt the same way in the 70s, though the former recently changed his tune.
The Jazz Singer: Admittedly I'm not the only one who doesn't find it great, but it's more than just not great, it's an awful movie. Historically important? Certainly. Incredibly cliched and contrived, even for its time? Certainly
The Maltese Falcon: Only really comes alive when Sydney Greenstreet is on screen. Mary Astor is annoying and weak, Bogart looks thoroughly bored as the straight man (I like him so much better in The African Queen or The Caine Mutiny or Treasure of the Sierra Madre, when he actually gets to *act*) and everything is so emotionless. Why should I care when he gives her up at the end? He sure doesn't seem to. "The stuff dreams are made of" he says monotonously...
The Searchers: Saddled with a ridiculous subplot that eats up running time and slows the movie down to a crawl, The Searchers is a decidedly overrated movie. I'll take George C. Scott in Schrader's Hardcore any day over the Duke in this slow, slow film.
_________________ I'm lithe and fierce as a tiger
|
| Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:35 pm |
|
 |
|
James Berardinelli
Site Admin
Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 pm Posts: 2771 Location: Mount Laurel, NJ, USA
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
If you're going to continue discussing THE SEARCHERS, take it to the General Movie forum. This topic is for discussion of THE BROADWAY MELODY.
|
| Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:20 am |
|
 |
|
JamesKunz
Critic
Joined: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:35 am Posts: 5842 Location: Easton, MD
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
To the general movies forum, post haste!
_________________ I'm lithe and fierce as a tiger
|
| Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:41 pm |
|
 |
|
Evenflow8112
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
So... 'Deer Hunter' next week? Anyone? Just kidding. I'd rather wait it out to see. Too bad 'Deliverance' didn't win Best Picture, though. I always wanted to see what the great Sir Berardinelli thought of that masterstroke of a thriller (should I start bribing ram1312 about now?).
|
| Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:00 am |
|
 |
|
ed_metal_head
|
 Re: THE BROADWAY MELODY (1929)
We actually have a "The Searchers" thread in the Great Movies subforum, so this would be the ideal place. As a matter of fact a mod could move the relevant parts of the discussion there...
|
| Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:14 pm |
|
|
|
Page 1 of 1
|
[ 18 posts ] |
|
Who is online |
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest |
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
|