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Studios get the box office for the first couple weeks, roughly, I'm not sure exactly where the divide is. But roughly speaking, theaters chains get the box office that comes in the later weeks after the opening. So studios need their big openings. Hype is their best friend.


Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:32 pm
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JamesKunz wrote:
Sexual Chocolate wrote:
Vexer wrote:
I don't their business model is "fucked" at all just cause no film has made 300 million domestic yet, 200 million is still pretty impressive, more then enough for execs to justify greenlighting more movies based on licensed properties.


200 mil is actually really bad for a film wth that size budget. Remember the rule of 2.5: Your average $200 million film needs to make $500 million just to break even.


Though that rule, I believe, pre-dates massive international grosses, the DVD market, etc.


It actually still holds pretty true even today. 30-40 years ago a good domestic gross was very important because the foreign and home video markets weren't as well developed. Now they are, and the domestic gross doesn't matter as much. Still, the studios are playing with fire; one of two Heaven's Gate-style bombs could do a lot of damage to their bottom line.

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Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:46 pm
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I mean, would I like the movies that I like to do well? Of course. But it's out of my control. So why worry about it? It doesn't really ultimately matter. Besides, some of my favorite movies were box office flops. In another thread we were talking about Almost Famous, a major favorite of mine and that movie did not do well at the box office.


Whether or not an individual movie does well or not, whether it's one of your favorites or one you hate, doesn't really matter that much in the overall scheme of things. But if there aren't any movies doing particularly well, the studios are most likely to respond in the long term by cutting back on production and focus ever more on potential blockbusters--and fewer films being produced means fewer films you are likely to enjoy.


Thu Jul 17, 2014 12:15 am
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ilovemovies wrote:
I mean, would I like the movies that I like to do well? Of course. But it's out of my control. So why worry about it? It doesn't really ultimately matter. Besides, some of my favorite movies were box office flops. In another thread we were talking about Almost Famous, a major favorite of mine and that movie did not do well at the box office.


Whether or not an individual movie does well or not, whether it's one of your favorites or one you hate, doesn't really matter that much in the overall scheme of things. But if there aren't any movies doing particularly well, the studios are most likely to respond in the long term by cutting back on production and focus ever more on potential blockbusters--and fewer films being produced means fewer films you are likely to enjoy.


Well, not necessarily. I think the time it takes to make a really good movie is simply taking longer and longer all the time. We have several big movies that have received massive hype when still more than 2 years away from release. Then several more 3 or 4 years away from release. Expect to start seeing that more, and more, and more. That's the future of theater-going. I hope to see a growth in low-budget material, but as far as events go, a 2 year gap between sequels just isn't enough anymore. Bond tried it with Quantum and it was painfully clear that they didn't have enough time to really even make a movie. The 4-year wait for Skyfall, IMO, paid off completely, and you could tell that they labored over it for much of that time in order to get it to that level. These one-and-done box office receipts reflect the amount of work the directors are putting into the films: not nearly enough. And the laziness and indifference show badly on the screen.


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Quantum's real problem was the writers' strike that left Craig himself and other crew members writing the thing.

Also, I think Marc Forster was an interesting choice of Director. Not a bad one, just different. Some scenes in that film are really well constructed. It the little things that tell the story. It's just lacks the energy of Casino Royale and the everything of Skyfall. Still think Quantum is a good film though

In a sense, I do agree though. I thought the middle of (Damon's) Bourne films was also the weakest. And that was only 2 years after the first.

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I've been reading that a majority of Sony Entertainment executives have been laid off recently. Amazing Spidey isn't the only reason for this, but it's certainly one of them, with 700 mil being considered a disappointment for its investors. Makes me wonder how Fox feels about Xmen and Apes. In theory, they should be pleased, but who knows.


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