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RIPD looks like a lot of fun. And yes it looks a lot like Men in Black, but in a good way.

On the other hand, Hangover 3 looks like a strong candidate for one of the worst movies ever made. It may be time to run Zach Galifianakis over with a truck.

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RIPD looks like a lot of fun. And yes it looks a lot like Men in Black, but in a good way.

On the other hand, Hangover 3 looks like a strong candidate for one of the worst movies ever made. It may be time to run Zach Galifianakis over with a truck.

Hangover 3 looks meh, something i'll see on DVD but not in a theater.


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Skyfall
There's alot to like about this entry into the James Bond series. Moody, great cinematography, actual character development, etc. In an era when characters, even ones without superpowers are capable of taking a licking that would kill another human and keep on fighting, it's good to see a film actually make the character seem human and vulnerable, rather than a plastic punching bag that's just going to keep on getting up each time they're knocked down.

Also, a fantastic villain brilliant played by Bardem.

However there were a few plot holes that I couldn't help but notice.
[Reveal] Spoiler:
In a meeting with the prime
minister and the head of British Intelligence, apparently 3 guards is all the security you actually need.
Why didn't they just bomb the house at the end? I know Javier Bardems character wanted the up close and personal approach and all but it seems a few cruise missiles might have come in handy at that point.
Also, who runs around in the dark with a flashlight when there's a highly trained killer nearby trying to you know, kill you? Why not send up a flair while you're at it?
And of course, what modern intelligence agency would be dumb enough to put all the info needed to ID most of their field agents on one hard drive?
Also, being able to blow up gas lines by hacking. And not just any gas lines, and not by hacking just any computers, but by hacking into the computers at the offices of the British Intelligence agency. I mean, seriously?


I think in the grand scheme of things, these would not have stood out so much in a more typical bond film. But when a film aims as high as this one did, then things that would have seemed more normal, like the hard drive bit, stick out like a sore thumb.

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Margaret (2011)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0466893/

I gather this was actually filmed in 2006, and the studio sat on it for 5 or 6 years due to a falling out with the director. It stars True Blood's Anna Paquin, and also features Matt Damon, Matthew Broderick and Mark Ruffalo. So to cut a long story short (the version I saw was 2:30, but I gather there is a 3 hr version also), it is a detailed character study of an unsympathetic New York Jewish girl (Paquin plays school girl Lisa, a role at least 10 years younger than of the actor), who's life is turned upside down after causing a horrific traffic accident (by distracting a bus driver). Paquin's performance is mostly convincing, although the dialogue often feels highly scripted (i.e. unrealistic). It is however a welcome change to watch a character we AREN'T rooting for; Lisa comes across as a selfish bitch (the director clearly doesn't want the viewers to sympathize with the character). The biggest issue is that the editing of this film is all over the place (there are a number of jarring continuity breaks), possibly a result of a studio unceremoniously dumping an unfinished product they wanted rid of - I would be somewhat interested in comparing this to a 3 hr cut that was released last year. It could and should have been a LOT better.
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Skyfall
There's alot to like about this entry into the James Bond series. Moody, great cinematography, actual character development, etc. In an era when characters, even ones without superpowers are capable of taking a licking that would kill another human and keep on fighting, it's good to see a film actually make the character seem human and vulnerable, rather than a plastic punching bag that's just going to keep on getting up each time they're knocked down.

Also, a fantastic villain brilliant played by Bardem.

However there were a few plot holes that I couldn't help but notice.
[Reveal] Spoiler:
In a meeting with the prime
minister and the head of British Intelligence, apparently 3 guards is all the security you actually need.
Why didn't they just bomb the house at the end? I know Javier Bardems character wanted the up close and personal approach and all but it seems a few cruise missiles might have come in handy at that point.
Also, who runs around in the dark with a flashlight when there's a highly trained killer nearby trying to you know, kill you? Why not send up a flair while you're at it?
And of course, what modern intelligence agency would be dumb enough to put all the info needed to ID most of their field agents on one hard drive?
Also, being able to blow up gas lines by hacking. And not just any gas lines, and not by hacking just any computers, but by hacking into the computers at the offices of the British Intelligence agency. I mean, seriously?


I think in the grand scheme of things, these would not have stood out so much in a more typical bond film. But when a film aims as high as this one did, then things that would have seemed more normal, like the hard drive bit, stick out like a sore thumb.

[Reveal] Spoiler:
The gas line thing isn't as farfetched as it sounds, something like that actually did happen way back in 1982 http://www.cracked.com/article_20050_6- ... movie.html so I can definitely believe it can happen today


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SkyfallThere's alot to like about this entry into the James Bond series. Moody, great cinematography, actual character development, etc. In an era when characters, even ones without superpowers are capable of taking a licking that would kill another human and keep on fighting, it's good to see a film actually make the character seem human and vulnerable, rather than a plastic punching bag that's just going to keep on getting up each time they're knocked down.
Also, a fantastic villain brilliant played by Bardem.
I think in the grand scheme of things, these would not have stood out so much in a more typical bond film. But when a film aims as high as this one did, then things that would have seemed more normal, like the hard drive bit, stick out like a sore thumb.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I felt that Skyfall is a James Bond film in name only. No gadgets, no Bond girls that last more than a few minutes, and the villain is not of Bond calibre (i.e. he didn't even want to rule or destroy the world). Yes it's passable entertainment, but a Bond film? No. I am truly flabbergasted that James, as a fan of the classic Bond films, endorsed Skyfall as a solid entry in the franchise. Nothing about Skyfall is archetypical Bond. 6/10 as an action film, 2/10 as a Bond film.
And I am not the only one that feels this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWfg__wKSY . That explains all my issues and then some.


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Pretty exciting weekend for me. All first time watches.

Schindler's List

I loved that it was shot in black and white. There were many instances where it felt like I was watching real footage, almost documentary like. Which I'm not counting as a negative. It is a truly devastating film, but there's something about the way it's been crafted that allows the viewer to be engaged and entertained without feeling like a sadist. It's honesty was inspiring. Liam Neeson has screen presence, and this movie wouldn't have been the same without him. His conviction and regret at the end broke my heart. It is a beautiful film and I'm glad that I got around to seeing it. 4/4

The Godfather

I know, right? I saw this for the first time. My opinion isn't much different than anyone elses. I don't know if I have a single complaint about this one. I absolutely loved every minute of it and don't think any amount of praise would be unfitting. This may be as close to a perfect movie as I've seen. Brando and Pacino were incredible. It was nice to see this young, restrained Al Pacino. I enjoyed it much more than the Pacino of recent years..or basically everything after The Godfather. The way everything unfolds just seemed so perfectly articulated right up until that chilling final sequence or killings. Diane Keatons final shot left more of an impression on me than I was expecting. It was the perfect way to end the movie. 4/4

Moulin Rouge!

Bit of a mess but I enjoyed it a lot. 3/4

The Godfather, Part 2

Not sure about this one yet. I don't know if my attention span had been tested too much when I watched this but I seemed to miss key points in the story. I was never quite sure what was going on. I enjoyed the early life of Vito Corleone sequences quite a bit, but can someone tell me what Robert De Niro did in this movie that won him an oscar? He didn't have much screen time, and he didn't really have much to do. Still, it had it's fair share of tragedy and devastation, maybe even more than Part 1, and I like that in a movie. I've read that a lot of people liked this better than The Godfather. I'd be interested in seeing some opinions. Maybe we should open a poll in the polling station? Tentative high 3.5/4

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I know, right? I saw this for the first time. My opinion isn't much different than anyone elses. I don't know if I have a single complaint about this one. I absolutely loved every minute of it and don't think any amount of praise would be unfitting. This may be as close to a perfect movie as I've seen. Brando and Pacino were incredible. It was nice to see this young, restrained Al Pacino. I enjoyed it much more than the Pacino of recent years..or basically everything after The Godfather. The way everything unfolds just seemed so perfectly articulated right up until that chilling final sequence or killings. Diane Keatons final shot left more of an impression on me than I was expecting. It was the perfect way to end the movie. 4/4


This is as good as a movie gets. Always exciting to meet someone who hasn't seen it before.


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I couldn't disagree with you more. I felt that Skyfall is a James Bond film in name only. No gadgets, no Bond girls that last more than a few minutes, and the villain is not of Bond calibre (i.e. he didn't even want to rule or destroy the world). Yes it's passable entertainment, but a Bond film? No. I am truly flabbergasted that James, as a fan of the classic Bond films, endorsed Skyfall as a solid entry in the franchise. Nothing about Skyfall is archetypical Bond. 6/10 as an action film, 2/10 as a Bond film.
And I am not the only one that feels this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWfg__wKSY . That explains all my issues and then some.


You're certainly not the only one who feels this way. I do think the Bond formula tends to be over-idealized sometimes though. Truth be told, "passable entertainment" is a good descriptor for many of the more solid entries in the series. Most of them are very unassuming and tend to be less pretentious than entries in other franchises. Mendes may use some unconventional methods for his product, but really so did many directors of the past entries. The lack of high-tech gadgets, specifically the deliberate reprisal of past gadgets, provides a chuckle. Chuckles are what this series has always been good for. And for expressing a certain hard-edged disposition; I do think Skyfall succeeds at that.


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thered47 wrote:
SkyfallThere's alot to like about this entry into the James Bond series. Moody, great cinematography, actual character development, etc. In an era when characters, even ones without superpowers are capable of taking a licking that would kill another human and keep on fighting, it's good to see a film actually make the character seem human and vulnerable, rather than a plastic punching bag that's just going to keep on getting up each time they're knocked down.
Also, a fantastic villain brilliant played by Bardem.
I think in the grand scheme of things, these would not have stood out so much in a more typical bond film. But when a film aims as high as this one did, then things that would have seemed more normal, like the hard drive bit, stick out like a sore thumb.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I felt that Skyfall is a James Bond film in name only. No gadgets, no Bond girls that last more than a few minutes, and the villain is not of Bond calibre (i.e. he didn't even want to rule or destroy the world). Yes it's passable entertainment, but a Bond film? No. I am truly flabbergasted that James, as a fan of the classic Bond films, endorsed Skyfall as a solid entry in the franchise. Nothing about Skyfall is archetypical Bond. 6/10 as an action film, 2/10 as a Bond film.
And I am not the only one that feels this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWfg__wKSY . That explains all my issues and then some.


I more or less agree that Skyfall, overall, doesn't feel like a proper Bond film. That's even with the introduction of the new Q, Moneypenny, and a few gadgets (handprint gun), some of which felt a bit forced. But that's not its main problem. I have no problem with writers/directors shaking up the formula. They did it in Casino Royale, and it worked. But they have to execute it well. First, the Bond ladies are weak. Severine brings nothing to the table, and the Moneypenny relationship felt forced to me. Second, although I enjoyed the villain with a more personal agenda, the particular motivation of Bardem's character (former agent that had been abandoned) had been done previously in GoldenEye. Third, the last act was a bit of a mess for me. First, I still don't know what to think about the writers trying to shed some light on Bond's background, but I believe this is the type of character that works best shrouded in mystery. But regardless, the execution of characters retreating to a familiar setting for a last stand, preparing booby traps, and whatnot, felt like something we've seen on other films a 100 times before and unlike what one would expect from a Bond film. To me, it felt like an awkward shift.

The films strengths are Sam Mendes' directing and the cinematography.

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Wow, Gedmud. That's one helluva treat! Glad you enjoyed them all. I love all four of those.

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nitrium wrote:
thered47 wrote:
SkyfallThere's alot to like about this entry into the James Bond series. Moody, great cinematography, actual character development, etc. In an era when characters, even ones without superpowers are capable of taking a licking that would kill another human and keep on fighting, it's good to see a film actually make the character seem human and vulnerable, rather than a plastic punching bag that's just going to keep on getting up each time they're knocked down.
Also, a fantastic villain brilliant played by Bardem.
I think in the grand scheme of things, these would not have stood out so much in a more typical bond film. But when a film aims as high as this one did, then things that would have seemed more normal, like the hard drive bit, stick out like a sore thumb.

I couldn't disagree with you more. I felt that Skyfall is a James Bond film in name only. No gadgets, no Bond girls that last more than a few minutes, and the villain is not of Bond calibre (i.e. he didn't even want to rule or destroy the world). Yes it's passable entertainment, but a Bond film? No. I am truly flabbergasted that James, as a fan of the classic Bond films, endorsed Skyfall as a solid entry in the franchise. Nothing about Skyfall is archetypical Bond. 6/10 as an action film, 2/10 as a Bond film.
And I am not the only one that feels this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWfg__wKSY . That explains all my issues and then some.


I more or less agree that Skyfall, overall, doesn't feel like a proper Bond film. That's even with the introduction of the new Q, Moneypenny, and a few gadgets (handprint gun), some of which felt a bit forced. But that's not its main problem. I have no problem with writers/directors shaking up the formula. They did it in Casino Royale, and it worked. But they have to execute it well. First, the Bond ladies are weak. Severine brings nothing to the table, and the Moneypenny relationship felt forced to me. Second, although I enjoyed the villain with a more personal agenda, the particular motivation of Bardem's character (former agent that had been abandoned) had been done previously in GoldenEye. Third, the last act was a bit of a mess for me. First, I still don't know what to think about the writers trying to shed some light on Bond's background, but I believe this is the type of character that works best shrouded in mystery. But regardless, the execution of characters retreating to a familiar setting for a last stand, preparing booby traps, and whatnot, felt like something we've seen on other films a 100 times before and unlike what one would expect from a Bond film. To me, it felt like an awkward shift.

The films strengths are Sam Mendes' directing and the cinematography.


Agree 100%

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Funny. To hear a lot of Bond fans tell it, "it's been done" is the best compliment you can give to a new Bond movie.

Yeah, the rogue-agent-out-for-revenge premise was done already in GoldenEye... and Skyfall did it far, far better.

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Funny. To hear a lot of Bond fans tell it, "it's been done" is the best compliment you can give to a new Bond movie.

Yeah, the rogue-agent-out-for-revenge premise was done already in GoldenEye... and Skyfall did it far, far better.


To the tune of three stars instead of two and a half, sure, but if you didn't feel Skyfall slipping away in the third act, I envy you

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It is a different act with a different feel, which is not itself a bad thing unless you insist that a narrative have a uniform feel from start to finish... which I don't.

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Southland Tales

Not quite the disaster it's been made out to be by some people (I can think of at least 10 movies that are FAR worse than this and that's without doing research), this in some ways is this generation's Heaven's Gate (albeit not on the same apocalyptic level) as an example of hubris and directorial ambition run amok.

The fact that it requires you to read three graphic novels prior to watching in order to make sense speaks of the hubris. The movie itself is ambitious and I don't like to blast films for being too ambitious in this era of limited ambition. However, this is too ambitious. I liked teh idea behind it more than the ltimate result.

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Southland TalesThe fact that it requires you to read three graphic novels prior to watching in order to make sense speaks of the hubris.
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Oh, was that where I went wrong. I don't remember seeing that mentioned in trailers/posters/DVD jacket. I found Southland Tales to completely incomprehensible, now I finally know why.


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Tsotsi: Winner of the 2005 Academy Award for foreign language film, but I just got around to it. Powerful film about a violent young street hood in South Africa who regains his conscience, with some scenes that had me biting my nails. Languages are Afrikaans, Zulu, Xhosa and some English.

EDIT: 8.5 of 10, close to a 9.

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I couldn't disagree with you more. I felt that Skyfall is a James Bond film in name only. No gadgets, no Bond girls that last more than a few minutes, and the villain is not of Bond calibre (i.e. he didn't even want to rule or destroy the world). Yes it's passable entertainment, but a Bond film? No. I am truly flabbergasted that James, as a fan of the classic Bond films, endorsed Skyfall as a solid entry in the franchise. Nothing about Skyfall is archetypical Bond. 6/10 as an action film, 2/10 as a Bond film.
And I am not the only one that feels this way: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWfg__wKSY . That explains all my issues and then some.

It's sad that Hollywood has done this to a fictional character who was always supposed to be just human but with certain skills that made him good at what he did for a living. It's even sadder that most of us have grown up with Hollywood's take on the character being the "standard".

In the novels, none and I mean NONE of the villains ever had world domination as any sort of goal, since they were all smart enough to realize how utterly stupid and insane it is. They were in fact focused on very specific aims (such as Auric Goldfinger's motivation being a pathological obsession with gold to the point where it was almost sexual). There were very few if gadgets involved since the books were fairly linked to the <*gasp*> REAL WORLD where such things are reserved for a technophile's wet dreams. The idea that Bond was always more focused on his missions than on banging girls is one of his dominant character traits in the novels. His first thoughts were never about getting the job done so that he could get back to sex but rather about getting the job done, period.

The point? Skyfall and the Craig films in general are shining examples in the entire Bond franchise of those that actually tried to stay true to the spirit of Fleming's original novels.

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Tsotsi: Winner of the 2005 Academy Award for foreign language film, but I just got around to it. Powerful film about a violent young street hood in South Africa who regains his conscience, with some scenes that had me biting my nails. Languages are Afrikaans, Zulu, Xhosa and some English.


Really liked this one too. Loved the ending

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Tsotsi: Winner of the 2005 Academy Award for foreign language film, but I just got around to it. Powerful film about a violent young street hood in South Africa who regains his conscience, with some scenes that had me biting my nails. Languages are Afrikaans, Zulu, Xhosa and some English.


Really liked this one too. Loved the ending
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