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Does Die Hard really count as a Christmas movie? Do Christmas movies have to be about Christmas I guess is the real question. It's not like John McClane learns anything about the holiday, or changes his values, or does anything related to the holiday at all. Really, he just writes "ho, ho, ho" on a sweater. If you want to say that a movie that takes place during the holiday season is a Christmas movie then that's fine, I suppose. I just consider a Christmas movie ones that says something about the holiday.


"This IS Christmas music!"

"You throw quite a party. I didn't realize they celebrated Christmas in Japan."

"Now I have a machine gun... HO-HO-HO"

"It's Christmas, Theo. It's the time of miracles. So be of good cheer... and call me when you hit the last lock."

"All right, listen up guys. 'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house, not a creature was stirring, except... the four assholes coming in the rear in standard two-by-two cover formation."

"The circuits that cannnot be cut are cut automatically in response to a terrorist incident. You asked for miracles, Theo, I give you the FBI."

[gasping as he sees the vault open] "Merry Christmas"

...and let's not forget that I won't be able to listen to "Let It Snow" without thinking of Die Hard.

But seriously now, much of the film's spirit revolves around Christmas. Be it all those events, Christmas party, visiting his estranged wife for the holidays, the creepy bells in the soundtrack, putting the Santa Claus hat on Tony, taping the gun to his back with Christmas tape... to me, it's as much a Christmas film as any other traditional Christmas film.

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PeachyPete wrote:
Does Die Hard really count as a Christmas movie? Do Christmas movies have to be about Christmas I guess is the real question. It's not like John McClane learns anything about the holiday, or changes his values, or does anything related to the holiday at all. Really, he just writes "ho, ho, ho" on a sweater. If you want to say that a movie that takes place during the holiday season is a Christmas movie then that's fine, I suppose. I just consider a Christmas movie ones that says something about the holiday.


"This IS Christmas music!"

"You throw quite a party. I didn't realize they celebrated Christmas in Japan."

"Now I have a machine gun... HO-HO-HO"

"It's Christmas, Theo. It's the time of miracles. So be of good cheer... and call me when you hit the last lock."

"All right, listen up guys. 'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house, not a creature was stirring, except... the four assholes coming in the rear in standard two-by-two cover formation."

"The circuits that cannnot be cut are cut automatically in response to a terrorist incident. You asked for miracles, Theo, I give you the FBI."

[gasping as he sees the vault open] "Merry Christmas"

...and let's not forget that I won't be able to listen to "Let It Snow" without thinking of Die Hard.

But seriously now, much of the film's spirit revolves around Christmas. Be it all those events, Christmas party, visiting his estranged wife for the holidays, the creepy bells in the soundtrack, putting the Santa Claus hat on Tony, taping the gun to his back with Christmas tape... to me, it's as much a Christmas film as any other traditional Christmas film.


I think you're confusing dialogue with spirit here. Your examples are mostly jokes. I don't think anyone can say the movie has much to do with Christmas outside of some jokes and the time of year the film takes place. If we're talking spirit it's obviously more closely related to something like Rio Bravo than it is anything Christmas-y. Traditionally, Christmas movies teach the protagonist some kind of lesson about love or compassion or some other heart warming concept. Unless you're going to argue that John McClane learning to value Holly is the heart warming part of the movie, which is a huge stretch, then I don't see how the film mentioning the holiday or making a few jokes backs the opinion up.


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PeachyPete wrote:
Thief12 wrote:
"This IS Christmas music!"

"You throw quite a party. I didn't realize they celebrated Christmas in Japan."

"Now I have a machine gun... HO-HO-HO"

"It's Christmas, Theo. It's the time of miracles. So be of good cheer... and call me when you hit the last lock."

"All right, listen up guys. 'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house, not a creature was stirring, except... the four assholes coming in the rear in standard two-by-two cover formation."

"The circuits that cannnot be cut are cut automatically in response to a terrorist incident. You asked for miracles, Theo, I give you the FBI."

[gasping as he sees the vault open] "Merry Christmas"

...and let's not forget that I won't be able to listen to "Let It Snow" without thinking of Die Hard.

But seriously now, much of the film's spirit revolves around Christmas. Be it all those events, Christmas party, visiting his estranged wife for the holidays, the creepy bells in the soundtrack, putting the Santa Claus hat on Tony, taping the gun to his back with Christmas tape... to me, it's as much a Christmas film as any other traditional Christmas film.


I think you're confusing dialogue with spirit here. Your examples are mostly jokes. I don't think anyone can say the movie has much to do with Christmas outside of some jokes and the time of year the film takes place. If we're talking spirit it's obviously more closely related to something like Rio Bravo than it is anything Christmas-y. Traditionally, Christmas movies teach the protagonist some kind of lesson about love or compassion or some other heart warming concept. Unless you're going to argue that John McClane learning to value Holly is the heart warming part of the movie, which is a huge stretch, then I don't see how the film mentioning the holiday or making a few jokes backs the opinion up.


No, I'm not confusing it. Although I opened the post with several examples of dialogue, on the last paragraph I explained how, to me, the film evokes a certain holiday spirit to it with how the events happen around Christmas and/or revolve around Christmas traditions. Obviously that's the way I perceive it and I don't expect anyone to agree. But I definitely see a Christmas vibe through all the film.

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Lined up some movies today between the family and I. In no particular order -

Home Alone
Santa Claus: The Movie
Elf
Polar Express
Die Hard (yes, yes I know)
Sleepy Hollow
Casino Royale
Love Actually

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A Charlie Brown Christmas FTW!

Vince Guaraldi's brilliant jazz piano score is just about the only Christmas music I can tolerate.


Some Christmas songs I actually like:

Happy Christmas (War Is Over) by John Lennon
Christmas In Hollis by Run-DMC
Let Me Sleep It's Christmastime by Pearl Jam
Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) by Darlene Love (featured in Goodfellas)
Soul Holidays by Sounds Of Blackness
Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer by Elmo And Patsy
The aforementioned Vince Guaraldi Jazz Piano

Christmas Songs I Detest

Christmas Shoes by Newsong (The worst ever. No question)
Little Saint Nick by The Beach Boys
Wonderful Christmastime by Paul McCartney
Feliz Navidad
The Chipmunk Song

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Like

Paul McCartney - Simply having a wonderful Christmas time

Hate

Cliff Richard - Mistletoe and Wine

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The worst Christmas song of all time is "Santa Baby". I feel like I need to take a very long shower with plenty of steel wool whenever I hear it.

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Worst ever - perhaps "Don't let the bells end" by the Darkness.

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No, no, no - the worst Christmas song of all time is Band Aid's "Do they know it's Christmas". Most of you will be to young to remember this 1984 charity project by some of Britain's and Ireland's most prominent pop musicians, like U2, David Bowie, Phil Collins and, er, Bananarama. It was meant to raise money for helping Ethopia, which was hit by drought and famine. A commendable task, but just read the lyrics and savour the cynicism (particularly the highlighted bits):

It's Christmas time, and there's no need to be afraid
At Christmas time, we let in light and we banish shade
And in our world of plenty, we can spread a smile of joy
Throw your arms around the world at Christmas time

But say a prayer to pray for the other ones
At Christmas time, it's hard, but when you're having fun
There's a world outside your window
And it's a world of dread and fear
Where the only water flowing is the bitter sting of tears
And the Christmas bells that ring there
Are the clanging chimes of doom
Well, tonight, thank God it's them instead of you

And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time
The greatest gift they'll get this year is life
Where nothing ever grows, no rain or rivers flow
Do they know it's Christmas time at all?

Here's to you, raise a glass for everyone
Here's to them underneath that burning sun

Do they know it's Christmas time at all?

Feed the world, Feed the world, let them know it's Christmas time, ...

Don't just marvel at the factual inaccuracy of the purported general lack of water in Africa, which features some of the World's largest lakes and longest rivers, and the alleged lack of vegetation on the continent! Weep for the poor Africans, who (*sniff*) won't have snow for Christmas *sob*), and (*blubber*) might not even know it's Christmas! But don't weep too much, just think "good that it's them instead of me" and raise your glass to the brown babies starving underneath the burning sun! Cheers!


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Not only all that, but there was a report a couple of years ago that claimed much of the proceeds from the fundraiser actually found its way into purchasing weapons for unruly warlords, instead of essentials like food, water and medicine.

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It's A Wonderful Life is not just my favourite Christmas film, it's my favourite film.

A Christmas Story is not well known in the UK. I am not old enough to find the portrayed era nostalgic, and I simply do not get the lamp-in-the-shape-of-a-leg!


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No, no, no - the worst Christmas song of all time is Band Aid's "Do they know it's Christmas". Most of you will be to young to remember this 1984 charity project by some of Britain's and Ireland's most prominent pop musicians, like U2, David Bowie, Phil Collins and, er, Bananarama. It was meant to raise money for helping Ethopia, which was hit by drought and famine. A commendable task, but just read the lyrics and savour the cynicism (particularly the highlighted bits):

It's Christmas time, and there's no need to be afraid
At Christmas time, we let in light and we banish shade
And in our world of plenty, we can spread a smile of joy
Throw your arms around the world at Christmas time

But say a prayer to pray for the other ones
At Christmas time, it's hard, but when you're having fun
There's a world outside your window
And it's a world of dread and fear
Where the only water flowing is the bitter sting of tears
And the Christmas bells that ring there
Are the clanging chimes of doom
Well, tonight, thank God it's them instead of you

And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time
The greatest gift they'll get this year is life
Where nothing ever grows, no rain or rivers flow
Do they know it's Christmas time at all?

Here's to you, raise a glass for everyone
Here's to them underneath that burning sun

Do they know it's Christmas time at all?

Feed the world, Feed the world, let them know it's Christmas time, ...

Don't just marvel at the factual inaccuracy of the purported general lack of water in Africa, which features some of the World's largest lakes and longest rivers, and the alleged lack of vegetation on the continent! Weep for the poor Africans, who (*sniff*) won't have snow for Christmas *sob*), and (*blubber*) might not even know it's Christmas! But don't weep too much, just think "good that it's them instead of me" and raise your glass to the brown babies starving underneath the burning sun! Cheers!


True. But I still like it better than the American version "We Are The World". Probably because I didn't hear ti as much as I did ""We Are The World". The sad irony is

NotHughGrant wrote:
Not only all that, but there was a report a couple of years ago that claimed much of the proceeds from the fundraiser actually found its way into purchasing weapons for unruly warlords, instead of essentials like food, water and medicine.

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Waitaminute.... I always thought "Santa Claus on a Helicopter," by Wing was the all time worst Christmas song. :lol:

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