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A modern exploitation sort of deal might be appropriate. I'm thinking Baise-Moi and maybe a couple of others. Maybe just Baise-Moi. I've heard that's a pretty nasty picture.

One nasty little feature I've seen that might be up your alley is Body Melt, about a dietary supplement that causes horrible gore effects to happen to people. It has more ambition than most of the films on your platter, but is at the same time so strange and gory that I can't say it's anything above a C-movie. It might be a little too similar to Street Trash (which I haven't seen) for your use here but it certainly is something.


Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:10 am
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Zeppelin wrote:
A modern exploitation sort of deal might be appropriate. I'm thinking Baise-Moi and maybe a couple of others. Maybe just Baise-Moi. I've heard that's a pretty nasty picture


Hush now. I've already raised unke's ire once and based on the results I never, ever want to do it again. Don't see this movie Mark. It's terrible. Wait...that might encourage him. It's...ugly? Yeah...ugly.


Mon Oct 18, 2010 3:13 pm
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I'm not watching Rape Me as everyone who reports back with it seems to hate it. It might fit in to modern exploitation but, if I see it, it'll be part of an accidental movie-watching. I'd rather stick with some stuff that might be famous but a little more obscure.

It isn't you, Zeppelin... I'm on edge and have a fairly stacked few weeks coming up. Which translates into: hey, if I don't see you guys before then, I'll check in on Sunday.

:x

I'm sick of taking tests. I'm 30 years old!


Mon Oct 18, 2010 6:42 pm
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Hey Vexer... do you want to do something quick on Beware: Children At Play before I write it up? Sort of a point-counterpoint thing.


Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:07 pm
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Dunno, it's been quite awhile since i've seen it.


Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:54 pm
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Vexer wrote:
Dunno, it's been quite awhile since i've seen it.


That's quite alright. I'll have the (overlong) write-up posted later this evening. Probably.


Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:17 pm
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#5: Beware: Children At Play

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What's it about?

A small town has a problem: children just keep disappearing and, when they make their grand entrance some frustrating time later, all they want to do is murder their parents, eat their parents or murder/eat their parents. Oh. There's also a subplot about forced breeding that has the kiddies making the fuck with enslaved women in order to raise an army. Something like that, anyway.

And what are we exploiting in this entry?

And here you're expecting me to say "children!" but wouldn't you know it's not exactly that. It's really exploiting parents and parenthood's designs along with the long-destroyed myth that all kids aren't little angels.

Summary of movie in a short sentence:

If you ever get your leg caught in a bear trap be sure, before fighting your way out, to kill your child. It's just good sense and you'll be glad you did.

Is it any good?

No. But it is enthusiastic, incautiously offensive and really obviously cheap.

The meat:

Our little angels. They grow up so fast! One day you're listening to your wife scream a fascinating sentence like "GET IT OUT OF ME!" and the next you're facing a bizarre battle of the wills as you stare down the little genetic legacy that is willing to punch you in the store for a little extra juice. It's all fair game, something that's been repeated literally billions upon billions of times, and it's also the kind of situation that makes you realize that the earth's mass is made up in part of billions upon billions upon billions of corpses. Not that you need to take a shot in the testicles to conclude this but, should you, you'll find it really helps.

Beware: Children At Play aims to raise a few questions while it builds up to a 15-minute scene that involves several dozen children getting shot, stabbed by pitchforks and dispatched in rustier ways. It wants to know: why do we suffer for our children? why do we assume there's always goodness inside? why are you cutting me in half with farm equipment? why are you... please... for the love of... don't... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

After getting his leg caught in a bear trap, Son eventually turns to cannibalism/murder. Troma isn't after a profound point with this: they want to set up their 15-minute scene of brutal dispatch. But that's not going to stop me from juicing a point out of the stupid, stupid set-up: there's a thin line between civilization's hardy assumptions and getting your intestines gnawed on by your very own flesh and blood.

Years ago I wrote the treatment of a fake movie that involved Sigourney Weaver cloning herself dozens of times over after stepping into a machine that says "Don't step into." Sigourney, ever the rule-waiver, ends up with about 100 identical Sigourneys running around doing everything the alpha Sigourney does. Troma uses the same kind of ass-pulling logic in order to effect the stupidest possible string of events and call it Beware: Children At Play. I have to admire this; for every single bad movie idea I've ever had I've always left it in writing to chuckle over at some later date. For every single bad idea that Troma has they set up a camera and film it.

And film it in a variety of film stocks ranging from 8mm to 32mm and everything in between. That's budget for you. But I'm digressing. Beware: Children At Play is the low-IQ version of the already low-IQ The Girl Next Door, a movie that wants to celebrate the indie spirit by sending tykes through the grist mill. The mystery at the film's center (why a bear trapped-leg would unspool into all of this violence) is meaningless, goofy establishment of the premise that kids aren't always sunshine and puppy dogs. Sound familiar? It should: terrible movie The Children of the Corn does the exact same thing. But, unlike Corn with its religious overtones and King-piled crappiness, Troma's cheapie only wishes to rewrite Dr. Spock (the practitioner, not the Vulcan) for the Reagan set.

It's fitting, really, that the vomit spewed out of the Me Generation would build into a movie that very much wants to show you a child being speared through the neck by a pitchfork. Is there any poetry greater than the designed Fuck You that is a pitchfork, bread and butter of the iconographer's Midwest, beheading a blond child? Definitely! But, if you're looking for a manual on how to surmount the Generation of Armchair Psych, Beware: Children At Play is not exactly the first source you should seek. Because, if you were born among my generation, you have parents that value expertise above the tried-and-true gut you must know that the intentions of What To Expect When You're Expecting are perhaps a mark shy of terrifying. Beware: Children At Play doesn't go there, of course, but I was left wondering if it wasn't at least trying to establish some bench anarchy.

I mentioned that the film ends with an orgy of violence meant to clear the cast of all comers under the age of 13. I've also mentioned that the film includes a subplot involving children screwing their elders in the hopes of raising an army. Both of these turns in story reflect the obvious anti-kiddie stance that has lived and breathed for more than a few generations. But what's revealing is that children are not just the smiling progeny of our hungry loins but a direct threat to the established wisdom of adults. It seems like this point is made all the damn time by kids so it's a little creepy to see the same adolescent philosophy getting espoused by adults that have money, access to cameras and at least rudimentary grasp of touch typing.

So in the end we've got this exploitation-lite of clueless parents, furious 'Tweens (still the funniest term to pop up in the last few years -- before one scratched one's "taint" one was busy fingernail-sawing one's itchy "tweenis") and the told-better-by-others battle between generations. The future that Beware: Children At Play promises is one of a playground where adults can roam freely and pick from the berry bushes of their choosing. It's the kind of fantasy only idiots could have dreamed up. But, in that idiocy, there's always some threat and in that threat there's always the reminder that companys still employ Futurists to call the hand of biotech's will.

Not long ago, about 10 days before I typed this, I saw someone smoking an electronic cigarette. Do you know what this is? It's a nicotine delivery device powered by batteries and free from the harmful effects of Big Nasty Tobacky's devious plan. I inquired as to why anyone would bother and I was told that Big Tobacky can get its hands bloody on someone else's lungs. It's this kind of activism that Beware: Children At Play could have warned us about... if only we'd listened! Or saw it!

Before I'm accused of overthinking a criminally stupid movie I will cut off the nay-saying forumites with this: if we don't overthink a movie like Beware: Children at Play we risk losing the kind of technology that gave us the Electronic Cigarette. Best to stay ahead of the games and watch the doom prophet watchmen.


Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:08 pm
Post Re: The 'Blood-Soaked, Limbs Hacked Exploitation Cinema' Thread
I'd like to have a little back-and-forth with someone. Anything, really, to get some participation in this thread. Perhaps Zeppelin, Sir Peachy, ed_metal_head or another game forumite would like to offer up some services? Addio zio Tom? It's readily available via all the usual spots and is up for free downloading at Google video.

I like writing the megaposts but maybe something should mix it up a bit. I've seen the movie and guarantee there's some sparkling conversational opportunities to be had about it. (Hint: it's racist. Not "racialist" but nakedly, hideously racist. I don't want to be alone in having seen it.)


Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:34 am
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You almost made me interested with the children at play post. That's pretty good writing. :mrgreen:


But seriously.






Kids.






are.





evil.


Thu Oct 28, 2010 1:39 am
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majoraphasia wrote:
I'd like to have a little back-and-forth with someone. Anything, really, to get some participation in this thread. Perhaps Zeppelin, Sir Peachy, ed_metal_head or another game forumite would like to offer up some services? Addio zio Tom? It's readily available via all the usual spots and is up for free downloading at Google video.

I like writing the megaposts but maybe something should mix it up a bit. I've seen the movie and guarantee there's some sparkling conversational opportunities to be had about it. (Hint: it's racist. Not "racialist" but nakedly, hideously racist. I don't want to be alone in having seen it.)


No. No no no no no. I've read about the things that happen in Addio Zio Tom and, despite my incredibly strong stomach, I refuse to watch it. I've got one genuinely racist friend (stretching the word there. I wouldn't see him if he wasn't a much closer, less racist friend's roommate) in real life and that's quite enough of that for me, thank you very much. I don't want to see his most exploitative fantasies played out on the small screen. No sir.

On the other hand, drop me a line whenever you get around to I Spit On Your Grave and I'll watch it too, since I read a review of that one that was good enough that I decided to see it. Also, it's at my local Family Video! Oh the irony/convenience!


Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:04 am
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majoraphasia wrote:
I'm not watching Rape Me as everyone who reports back with it seems to hate it. It might fit in to modern exploitation but, if I see it, it'll be part of an accidental movie-watching. I'd rather stick with some stuff that might be famous but a little more obscure.

It isn't you, Zeppelin... I'm on edge and have a fairly stacked few weeks coming up. Which translates into: hey, if I don't see you guys before then, I'll check in on Sunday.

:x

I'm sick of taking tests. I'm 30 years old!



I saw Baise Moi just over 3 years ago and gave it 2/10
Obviously an exploitation pic, but it's just crap
Rob


Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:11 am
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ed_metal_head wrote:
stiefmo wrote:
Dear Major,

As the highest ranking member on the reelviews forum that will sacrifice his time in hopes of finding the most gruesome, most obscene, most offensive films out there, I have a challenge for you. The movie is titled 'The Human Centipede' and I would love nothing further than to hear your review of said film.

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/th ... de/trailer

If there is a theatre near you showing this film, I am willing to pay for your film ticket via Fandango or some other outlet for you to go see this film and review it.

Major, are you up to the challenge?


I'm going to have to start calling you mo-stief because you do things in reverse!

Said person already provided thoughts on the film. You can read those thoughts here:
http://reelviews.net/reelviewsforum/viewtopic.php?p=51465#p51465

You can thank me by paying for my film ticket :D



I need to disagree

Humanan Centipede is amateur hour film making and acting.

That said, there are several scenes including the ending that are genuinely ghastly.

Now we reach the awkward discussion.

Is a crap film that makes you sit there in genuine concern for the characters better than a high production value movie that has you bored?

As i write this I am starting to rethink my position.

I was a 4/10 but have to admit that this film has stayed in my mind in vivid detail.

But it is crap:-)
Rob


Thu Oct 28, 2010 2:17 am
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Robert Holloway wrote:

Humanan Centipede is amateur hour film making and acting.

That said, there are several scenes including the ending that are genuinely ghastly.

Now we reach the awkward discussion.

Is a crap film that makes you sit there in genuine concern for the characters better than a high production value movie that has you bored?

As i write this I am starting to rethink my position.

I was a 4/10 but have to admit that this film has stayed in my mind in vivid detail.

But it is crap:-)
Rob


It may not feature the finest acting of the year but the film, from the design up, is one of the more effective features of 2010.

Robert Holloway wrote:
Is a crap film that makes you sit there in genuine concern for the characters better than a high production value movie that has you bored?


Of course it's better. This is like comparing a pulp horror novel, well-done but lacking in some literary merit, to a cookbook that showcases soup options for your Crock Pot.

For a movie to be "crap" it has to either show zero ambition or grasp for a mark that it couldn't possibly reach. The Human Centipede, and what it does, scores pointing for accomplishing everything it sets out to do as well as doing it extraordinarily well. It doesn't aim for the heights of Into The Wild and that's totally acceptable, far better than a movie like Gigantic that aims for nothing and hits the bullseye.


Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:23 am
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mailedbypostman wrote:
You almost made me interested with the children at play post. That's pretty good writing. :mrgreen:


Thank you much, postmaster.

Zeppelin wrote:
No no no no no. I've read about the things that happen in Addio Zio Tom
and, despite my incredibly strong stomach, I refuse to watch it. I've
got one genuinely racist friend (stretching the word there. I wouldn't
see him if he wasn't a much closer, less racist friend's roommate) in
real life and that's quite enough of that for me, thank you very much.
I don't want to see his most exploitative fantasies played out on the
small screen. No sir.

On the other hand, drop me a line
whenever you get around to I Spit On Your Grave and I'll watch
it too, since I read a review of that one that was good enough that I
decided to see it. Also, it's at my local Family Video! Oh the
irony/convenience!


Understood on the racist "let's humiliate a bunch of poor, struggling black people" movie. It currently sits at #1 of Worst Movies I've Ever Seen list for its despicable immorality. Jaw-dropping, horrible... you're right to avoid it. Everyone is right to avoid it. I regret having seen it... hey! Roger Ebert said basically the same thing!

But I'll drop you that line on I Spit On Your Grave. That should be a good one as a few forumites have seen it and, what's more, that remake is in release.


Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:54 am
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majoraphasia wrote:
I'd like to have a little back-and-forth with someone. Anything, really, to get some participation in this thread. Perhaps Zeppelin, Sir Peachy, ed_metal_head or another game forumite would like to offer up some services? Addio zio Tom? It's readily available via all the usual spots and is up for free downloading at Google video.


No thank you. My tastes are far too high-brow to go wallowing with you. Unless it has a lot of nudity.

But seriously, I can't say that I have too much interest (or the appetite) for most of these. I've seen I Spit On Your Grave and would contribute a wee bit (although the viewing is fairly recent I'd just as soon forget it) if you posted something about it. Didn't Rob see this too? Perhaps he could add something too. Of course you'd have to watch the film first. Can't say I recommend it. It's obviously not good, but it didn't strike me as bad either. It's also not as vile as I thought.


Thu Oct 28, 2010 4:34 pm
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ed_metal_head wrote:
majoraphasia wrote:
I'd like to have a little back-and-forth with someone. Anything, really, to get some participation in this thread. Perhaps Zeppelin, Sir Peachy, ed_metal_head or another game forumite would like to offer up some services? Addio zio Tom? It's readily available via all the usual spots and is up for free downloading at Google video.


No thank you. My tastes are far too high-brow to go wallowing with you. Unless it has a lot of nudity.

But seriously, I can't say that I have too much interest (or the appetite) for most of these. I've seen I Spit On Your Grave and would contribute a wee bit (although the viewing is fairly recent I'd just as soon forget it) if you posted something about it. Didn't Rob see this too? Perhaps he could add something too. Of course you'd have to watch the film first. Can't say I recommend it. It's obviously not good, but it didn't strike me as bad either. It's also not as vile as I thought.


The experience thus far has been pretty interesting -- balancing movies like Vivre Sa Vie against Beware: Children at Play has been gently enlightening. I know Spit will get at least a few people in and about the thread. Although, if you take the ratio of hits/posts this thread is apparently being read by at least a few people. That's cool.


Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:56 pm
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majoraphasia wrote:
ed_metal_head wrote:
majoraphasia wrote:
I'd like to have a little back-and-forth with someone. Anything, really, to get some participation in this thread. Perhaps Zeppelin, Sir Peachy, ed_metal_head or another game forumite would like to offer up some services? Addio zio Tom? It's readily available via all the usual spots and is up for free downloading at Google video.


No thank you. My tastes are far too high-brow to go wallowing with you. Unless it has a lot of nudity.

But seriously, I can't say that I have too much interest (or the appetite) for most of these. I've seen I Spit On Your Grave and would contribute a wee bit (although the viewing is fairly recent I'd just as soon forget it) if you posted something about it. Didn't Rob see this too? Perhaps he could add something too. Of course you'd have to watch the film first. Can't say I recommend it. It's obviously not good, but it didn't strike me as bad either. It's also not as vile as I thought.


The experience thus far has been pretty interesting -- balancing movies like Vivre Sa Vie against Beware: Children at Play has been gently enlightening. I know Spit will get at least a few people in and about the thread. Although, if you take the ratio of hits/posts this thread is apparently being read by at least a few people. That's cool.


Of course people are reading. Like most I might never see any of these but that doesn't mean it isn't fun to read about them. Doesn't hurt that it's so nicely written too. Btw, I trust you know I was joking when I said my tastes were "high-brow".


Sat Oct 30, 2010 12:19 pm
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It's funny, no?, the kind of accidental biography that gets written on this forum. I did indeed know you were joking with the "high brow" remark but I was obviously (and, to me, surprisingly) at least a little injured. You clearly read me better than I read myself. Thanks for the compliment, too... I guess I must feel at least a little self-conscious about the thread. Not that I'm wasting my time so much as I must worry, somewhere down low, that others will think I'm wasting my time.

This must be why I love high school movies so damned much... I'm still partially in those dark ages. Not a bad thing and, hey, at least I know it. And without spending a nickel on therapy!


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All right, for some recommendations:

"I WANNA FUCKIN' KILL MYSELF" DOUBLE FEATURE:

Men Behind The Sun
In A Glass Cage

These movies are among the most depressing and exploitative ever made. You'll be looking for some sunshine and rainbows afterward. In A Glass Cage is about a paralyzed Nazi Doctor and pedophile who takes a young boy as his nurse...but the boy soon wants to follow in the old man's footsteps. Men Behind The Sun is also about World War II, but this time from the Japanese point of view. It takes place in a camp where the Japanese performed wartime experiments on humans and animals. Yum.

LIVING LOVING DEAD (IT'S JUST A CORPSE MAN)

Nekromantik

A movie about your typical couple: A guy working as a street cleaner finds a corpse, which he brings home so he and his girlfriend can have sex with it. But it turns out she prefers the corpse to him!!! A barrel of laughs.

"LETS GO HARASS SOME BLACK PEOPLE" NIGHT

Fight For Your Life

A gang of white supremacists take a black family hostage. This includes a scene where a white dude rapes a black girl and then states "I just filled me a black oak." I'm going to hell just for watching this.

"I WANNA KILL MYSELF" (PART 2)

Combat Shock

This follows a Vietnam veteran trying to survive in the slums of New York City. Saddled with a nagging wife and a deformed baby, he looks for work, any work...but is continually haunted by the war. Depressing and oppressive in the extreme.

JESS FRANCO DOUBLE FEATURE

She Killed In Ecstasy
Lesbian Vampires

That should do it for now. But I dig exploitation movies. I'm always good for a title or two.

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Sat Oct 30, 2010 8:12 pm
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And he who calls himself Sexual Chocolate comes in and offers up some interesting pizza. That sentence concluded most disappointingly.

But wow! You, he of unwieldy screen name, hath delivered. And let's see what it's going to be...

Men Behind the Sun gets a second mention (the first was Zeppelin) and so, because it clearly has built some variety of infamy, gets added. Since I've seen very little Japanasplatter (I'll be copyrighting that) and those Guinea Pig movies aren't easy to get a hold of I'll be checking this similar-sounding movie out.

Nekromantik sounds promising so I'll consider it... but not for this thread. Low-budget horror (from Germany, no less) is good any time and this one doesn't sound like it's out to do anything different from some of the stuff I've already seen for this 'project'.

Fight For Your Life is also promising. "I'm going to hell just for watching this," is a fine sales pitch but I want to be sure this isn't standard home invasion fare -- I've seen enough of these and this one has to be somethin' special. Plus I already have a racist movie down the hatch (that Uncle Tom movie). We'll see.

Combat Shock, too, is promising. It's hard for me to see the exploitation angle so it might be saved for a rainy day.

The Franco pictures are the drive-in fare I've been looking for. I should know because I've already seen She Killed In Ecstasy (Sundance Channel used to play it) and found it poorly acted, violent and much to my b-movie liking. Love Letters of a Portuguese Nun was another equally drive-in-y movie and so, with some pleasure, add Lesbian Vampires to the list.


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