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A while ago I saw a Norwegian film called Dead Snow about Nazi zombies. It wasn't spectacularly good, and it borrowed a bit too much from Evil Dead, but it was fun.


And again I have to bring this up: what difference does it make that the zombies were/are national socialists?! They're undead, they all behave the same way. These questions can only come up when the movie either isn't trying hard enough or failing in its modest goals.

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I wonder what branch of National Socialism they were students of. It's a broader spectrum than many are aware of.

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I wonder what branch of National Socialism they were students of. It's a broader spectrum than many are aware of.


They belong to the branch that aim to eat all of the living, of course. Chilean, I think that makes them.

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Thief12 wrote:
A while ago I saw a Norwegian film called Dead Snow about Nazi zombies. It wasn't spectacularly good, and it borrowed a bit too much from Evil Dead, but it was fun.


And again I have to bring this up: what difference does it make that the zombies were/are national socialists?! They're undead, they all behave the same way. These questions can only come up when the movie either isn't trying hard enough or failing in its modest goals.

I thought the movie succeeded quite well in it's goals and I honestly have to say I do prefer it to Evil Dead.


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This is the only topic that, when a new reply is made, I get an email notification. I must remember to de-select that.

I'm no fan of Evil Dead though it was obviously made with enthusiasm by people who really believed in what they were doing. That alone is enough to rise above Dead Snow, made by people who thought up one joke and then secured financing and then copied a movie that was made by people who cared.

I don't demand my movies be any good or original or moving but it's nice when they're made by a group with some convictions. Did Dead Snow really have anything that set it apart from any other mediocre zombie movie? It needed more sex and violence to really sink to the depths required for splatter horror greatness. It seemed as if the writers thought NAZI, thought zombie and then stopped thinking. Which is pretty much enough for the target audience.

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This is the only topic that, when a new reply is made, I get an email notification. I must remember to de-select that.

I'm no fan of Evil Dead though it was obviously made with enthusiasm by people who really believed in what they were doing. That alone is enough to rise above Dead Snow, made by people who thought up one joke and then secured financing and then copied a movie that was made by people who cared.

I don't demand my movies be any good or original or moving but it's nice when they're made by a group with some convictions. Did Dead Snow really have anything that set it apart from any other mediocre zombie movie? It needed more sex and violence to really sink to the depths required for splatter horror greatness. It seemed as if the writers thought NAZI, thought zombie and then stopped thinking. Which is pretty much enough for the target audience.

I disagree, to me it felt like Dead Snow was made with plenty of passion, it didn't feel like a "copy" of Evil Dead to me at all(particularly since Evil Dead was about demons, not zombies)


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Thief12 wrote:
A while ago I saw a Norwegian film called Dead Snow about Nazi zombies. It wasn't spectacularly good, and it borrowed a bit too much from Evil Dead, but it was fun.


And again I have to bring this up: what difference does it make that the zombies were/are national socialists?! They're undead, they all behave the same way. These questions can only come up when the movie either isn't trying hard enough or failing in its modest goals.


I make a similar question in a review I wrote about the film. Here's an excerpt of what I wrote:

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What's scarier? Nazis or zombies? What about Nazi zombies? That seems to be the brainstorming premise of Dead Snow (Død snø), a 2009 Norwegian film that presents a squad of undead Nazi soldiers terrorizing a group of young medical students spending the Easter holidays at a remote cabin in Øksfjord.

Considering the perception most people have about Nazis and zombies, the subject matter seems ripe for use. As a matter of fact, I'm surprised something like this hasn't been done more often outside of the cult genre. In the eyes of most people, Nazis have been the most evil military force that humanity has had to deal with. The Nazi Regime in Germany is attributed with the death of millions of people, most of them Jews, as a result of their anti-semitic ideology. Zombies, on the other hand, could be one of humanity’s most latent recent fears. As ludicrous as it might seem to some, the possibility of a zombie apocalypse has become a real fear to a lot of people, and lots of them live getting ready for such an event.

Another interesting point are the inherent similarities between Nazi ideology and zombie mythology. When asked about the general Nazi ideology regarding what they called the Final Solution against Jewish population, Germany's Minister of Propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, said that Hitler was "determined to clear the table" and that the war would bring the Jews' "own destruction". Compare that with what writer Max Brooks said about zombies on his best-selling novel, World War Z: "Other monsters may threaten individual humans, but the living dead threaten the entire human race... Zombies are slate wipers."

However, the film cares little about the political or social implications of its lead subjects, and rarely takes advantage of its implications, other than showing cool zombies in cool Nazi uniforms. Instead, it focuses more on horror, gore, and humor. That isn’t inherently bad, but don't look here expecting a thought-provoking analysis of either Nazi ideals or zombie mythology cause you'll be disappointed. As a matter of fact, the story draws more from the Scandinavian folk tale of the “draugr”, than it might draw from its Nazi subjects.


(You can look for the whole review on my signature link)

But anyway, the zombies being Nazis doesn't bring anything particularly different to the table other than the aforementioned "fear" of Nazi ideology and having them wear cool uniforms. But to be honest, I really didn't mind that. I didn't approach the film expecting a socio-political analysis, and I don't think the writers intended to do that either.

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I thought the movie succeeded quite well in it's goals and I honestly have to say I do prefer it to Evil Dead.


I agree here. I wasn't a huge fan of Raimi's film.

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It seemed as if the writers thought NAZI, thought zombie and then stopped thinking. Which is pretty much enough for the target audience.


LOL, sorry to quote you again, but this line reminded me of the opening paragraph on the aforementioned review. I really don't think they meant to go further beyond that :D

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