By making a self-contained trilogy of Batman with a clearly defined beginning, middle, and end, Nolan has essentially killed Batman. But that's not a bad thing at all. These movies will resonate for a long time as classics of the superhero genre, and challenging them with another version of Batman so soon is foolhardy.

There are a lot of stupid, unrefined people out there who want nothing more than mindless thrills (or laughs) from their movies. And I know that money is the primary reason why a movie is made. I get that. But does it have to be the ONLY thing? Shouldn't someone at Warner Brothers do the right thing and put an end to the rehashing? Leave Batman alone for a good long time and move on to other projects. There are other ways to make money

There may be other ways to make money, but few are as guranteed to make money as Batman, so from a business standpoint it makes to do another film. Frankly i'm not against the idea myself, I enjoyed Nolan's films but I wouldn't call them classics.

No one will ever get it right. It'll always be a cash grab. I think Nolan has done something really special with Batman and I just wish that WB would wait a little while before tarnishing that.

No one will ever get it right. It'll always be a cash grab. I think Nolan has done something really special with Batman and I just wish that WB would wait a little while before tarnishing that.

I kinda like how, while Nolan clearly wrapped up the trilogy, he didn't shut the window entirely for Warner to decide to continue it... but almost more as a dare. By doing so, Warner would look like greedy-ass fucks... but apparently Hollywood honchos will always look for ways to squeeze more blood from a stone (despite taking the safe route by deciding just to start the series over again... for a third time) .

By making a self-contained trilogy of Batman with a clearly defined beginning, middle, and end, Nolan has essentially killed Batman. But that's not a bad thing at all. These movies will resonate for a long time as classics of the superhero genre, and challenging them with another version of Batman so soon is foolhardy.

There are a lot of stupid, unrefined people out there who want nothing more than mindless thrills (or laughs) from their movies. And I know that money is the primary reason why a movie is made. I get that. But does it have to be the ONLY thing? Shouldn't someone at Warner Brothers do the right thing and put an end to the rehashing? Leave Batman alone for a good long time and move on to other projects. There are other ways to make money

it could also be a JOHN CARTER-size failure

I am not sure why the term John Carter-size failure is so ubiquitous and we don't use a Battleship-size failure when their budgets and domestic box office are almost equivalent. Probably we have been inceptioned by the news media incessant negative hype machine stories on John Carter. When journalists were asked about their not going after Battleship like John Carter as a much worse example of soulless cynical moviemaking excess(while Carter is a work of artistic passion and excess). Their answer is we did that story to death that we gave Battleship an undeserved pass.

Didn't Battleship make the budget back in the non-US markets? (I didn't follow its gross so I didn't know) And it was huge in those markets. I remembered it was big when it came here (Thailand) because it was one of the first big-budget movies of the year (opened before the US a week) and we didn't have a blockbuster-type movie for quite a long, long while.

I'm not debating the intrinsic value of the projects, but JOHN CARTER was a bigger risk than BATTLESHIP. One could actually use BATTLESHIP as an example of how "safe" movies sometimes fail.

Except that didn’t happen. “Battleship” was probably the second-biggest flop of the year behind “John Carter”...

Perhaps alien invasions are played out at the multiplex, or maybe the board game just didn’t stir too many memories in the era of video games that are getting closer all the time to virtual reality. Or perhaps … 2012 was the year that audiences finally tired of movies that were all brawn and no brain.

We’d love to think that was the case, since it was character-driven spectacles like “The Avengers,” “The Dark Knight Rises” and “The Hunger Games” (and to a lesser extent, “The Amazing Spider-Man”) that all did the blockbuster business at the box office this year. All of those movies gave viewers the action and excitement required, yet each also focused on creating or extending memorable characters and even touching on serious themes (“The Hunger Games” and “TDKR” were especially strong in that regard). Did “Battleship” – or “John Carter” or “Dark Shadows” or “Total Recall” -- offer anything like that?

Yeah John Carter was the bigger failure with Battleship a close second