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November 10, 2011: "The Porn Analogy" 
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Post Re: November 10, 2011: "The Porn Analogy"
moviemkr7 wrote:
Does this mean that, at least for the time being, you're not going to shut down Reelviews?


Not sure whether I detect disappointment there or not, but it is unlikely that ReelViews will get shut down any time in the near future.


Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:47 pm
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Post Re: November 10, 2011: "The Porn Analogy"
While there are some similarities, there are important differences between movie criticism, non-porn movies, and porn. In the case of movie criticism, most people probably want to know whether or not they should see the film. In-depth analysis in the style of Ebert was icing on the cake to those who like that sort of thing, but probably not what most of his readers were interested in. At the end of the day, it was the direction of the thumb. There are enough people willing to offer their opinions for free that enough is available for free. With non-porn movies and, also, music, most of it is not legally free. Many people are willing to break the law if they think it is unlikely that they get caught. That doesn't make it right. (As for the argument that it is free advertising and obviously helps sales, then a) why buy when it is free and b) if that were true, more studios and musicians would offer high-quality stuff (as opposed to teasers etc) for free.) In the long term, this trend, if it continues, will probably destroy the democratization of art, i.e. the trend started by Gutenberg that anyone with talent could make money by selling content, which was a huge improvement over the previous model (the wealthy paid for those works they deemed important). Porn is similar to movie criticism: for most people, relatively low-quality stuff is enough, so why pay more? However, there is still a lot of money to be made in porn. Much free porn is essentially advertising for higher quality stuff and my guess is that enough people buy it to make it viable. (Even before the internet, there were thousands of new porn films each year. No-one can possibly see them all. Even allowing for differences in taste, it is astonishing that there was a market for so many.) Also, much free porn is amateur porn. This isn't pirating a copyrighted film. If it's good enough, then the producers of higher quality movies will have to live with it. Also, the <I>production</I> costs of porn films have always been low. With music, non-porn films and, to some extent, other online content, many people make the mistake of assuming that since distribution is now cheap, then the thing itself is not worth paying for, which is a wrong decision. However, in the case of amateur porn with essentially zero production costs, the community can feed itself (I'm sure there are better metaphors in this case!) and not rely on the studios.


Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:45 am
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Post Re: November 10, 2011: "The Porn Analogy"
James Berardinelli wrote:
moviemkr7 wrote:
Does this mean that, at least for the time being, you're not going to shut down Reelviews?


Not sure whether I detect disappointment there or not, but it is unlikely that ReelViews will get shut down any time in the near future.


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Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:08 pm
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Post Re: November 10, 2011: "The Porn Analogy"
I've been reading this site since the late Nineties. Back then I would visit each day. Nowadays it can be a week between visits. The reason for this is that level of content has reduced. That's not a criticism; it's a statement of fact. Less content = less traffic.

I wouldn't recommend converting to a video site unless JB fancies himself as a performer. There are many examples of good writers trying their hand in front of the camera and getting a big dose of FAIL for their efforts.

I don't really know what to suggest... a paysite brings its own problems of attrition and also I'm as ad-blind as the next guy. It's a conundrum, to be sure.

I can't see the harm in setting up a Paypal Donation button. Those who would like to give you something would and those who wouldn't, wouldn't. No harm, no foul. I don't know what the traffic is like here now but if you got say 0.5% take-up at $2 per month that would be $10 per thousand readers per month. Not huge but it'd buy junior a Christmas present.


Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:16 am
Post Re: November 10, 2011: "The Porn Analogy"
Donation button for sure. I suggested that to James back in 2009 via an email. Sure, a donate button wont make anyone rich but I know I would like to support the site in a way other than clicking on silly advertisements. If I can see a minimum of 3 movies a month and pay $10-11 (not counting a box of Junior Mints) then I can for sure drop $10 here from time to time.

The way I see it, James saves me money by his reviews. On many occasions I have been ready to drop cash on a film that his review reveals to be junk. I would be happy to throw some of that money saved his way.


Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:00 pm
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